1journeyman
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Yup.. I'm not using it for medicinal purposes. Just to stimulate active eating habits.
garlic extreem!
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reefreak29
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
No idea why, but my fish definitely love it. I'm going to soak my bait in garlic when I go fishing next time....
thats a really good idea im going to try that
No idea why, but my fish definitely love it. I'm going to soak my bait in garlic when I go fishing next time....
thats a really good idea im going to try that
hatessushi
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With the Garlic card and some garlic cloves you can't beat it. If you feed frozen then it takes no time. while the food is thawing out rub a clove on the card and put the mush on the food, then use the eye dropper for the selcon and put some on it. It will make it thaw quicker and gets the garlic in there. Your fish will be healthier with the garlic. Also fresh garlic smells great!! It takes me less time to fix the garlic then it does to get the food ready.
I guess using garlic extreme is better then using nothing and it does help them eat.
I guess using garlic extreme is better then using nothing and it does help them eat.
ocellaris_keeper
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Although the stuff really stinks, it is so important to give your fish every fighting chance possible and nothing is better and safer than Garlic.
hatessushi
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If it's a garlic product then the potency is not the same as fresh garlic. Allicin is produced immediately upon mincing the garlic glove and quickly breaks down. That is why marketed bottled garlic is virtually useless and the hobbyist needs to use fresh garlic.
ocellaris_keeper
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Agree - I use cloves because of the Allicin and man does it stink.
curtis1158
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I agree that Garlic Extreme is for an appetite starter. I have had great luck using Garlic Elixir as both an appetite starter and for homeopathic medicinal purposes. The stuff is not cheap. I use it twice a week, a few drops in the food-let it soak for 30 minutes in the refrig. Between garlic elixir and the cleaner shrimp, I have been able to overcome some ailments in the tank. (knock on wood). Well worth the money.
unleashed
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Originally Posted by HatesSushi
I quit using Garlic Extreme (not because of the smell) because it is really useless other then being an attractant. Here is the reason why. this is a excerpt from Beths post in the Disease and treatment forum.
Garlic is a plant with its primary ingredient, allicin, identified, at least anecdotally, as benefiting fish health and even combating certain fungal, viral, bacterial and parasitic pathogens, even serving as a type of homeopathic repellent. Saying that, the hobbyist can not make the mistake of identifying garlic as a cure-all for any fish disease. Rather, if used, it must be considered as a preventative measure, rather than a cure post-disease process; a supplement used to enhance fish health, or in addition to employing other established methods used to address fish diseases.
It is important not to use a processed product: bottled garlic. Instead, the hobbyist should use fresh garlic as identified below. [You need only buy a single garlic glove at a time, not bunches.]
Snap a single glove off of the bud. Peel off the skin. Using a non-porous container, such as a glass or Pyrex dish, and a sharp knife, mince and smash the glove, preserving the juice. Once finely minced and smashed, and the juices have been released from the garlic, quickly add meaty foods, such as fresh homemade fish food, or high-quality frozen fish foods. Lightly mix the food in with the garlic so that the food is saturated, but not swimming in garlic juice. Cover your container, and place the mixture in the refrigerator for 5 mins.
Feed your fish, preferably using a syringe or a turkey baster to ensure that fish receives the garlic supplemented food. You can add a small bit of sea water to this mixture to get the mixture into your delivery syringe.
This should be done 3x a day if you are using garlic medicinally.
Allicin is produced immediately upon mincing the garlic glove and quickly breaks down. That is why marketed bottled garlic is virtually useless and the hobbyist needs to use fresh garlic.
If you use fresh garlic it doesn't smell as strong as the Garlic Extreme and is way cheaper, I think like $.20 for for 1 bulb that has many cloves on it. There is a company that makes an item called a Garlic Card ($6) you can get online. It is basically a plastic credit card with "G"'s and "C"'s punched in it. All you do is rub a clove on it and it turns the garlic intoa pureed juice which is perfect for adding to the food. this is way easier then trying to mince it or using a garlic press.
im not trying to get a flaming going into this thread but as for the experts advice (who is truely an expert?) we have no experts on this forum or many others for that fact .i have kept many species of fish for many yrs with success but I am no expert by any means we are all hobbiest..ok yes garlic extreme can tend to be pricey but for as long as one bottle last me its worth that tad i pay extra for easy use(dosing) and keeping.and I will keep using it .what works for one person may not work for another i still say personal research is everyones best bet for keeping their fish healthy dont just rely on other hobbiest to do your homework for you .when it comes to the do's and don'ts of this hobby it tends to be more fad and trends more than accual research and facts
I quit using Garlic Extreme (not because of the smell) because it is really useless other then being an attractant. Here is the reason why. this is a excerpt from Beths post in the Disease and treatment forum.
Garlic is a plant with its primary ingredient, allicin, identified, at least anecdotally, as benefiting fish health and even combating certain fungal, viral, bacterial and parasitic pathogens, even serving as a type of homeopathic repellent. Saying that, the hobbyist can not make the mistake of identifying garlic as a cure-all for any fish disease. Rather, if used, it must be considered as a preventative measure, rather than a cure post-disease process; a supplement used to enhance fish health, or in addition to employing other established methods used to address fish diseases.
It is important not to use a processed product: bottled garlic. Instead, the hobbyist should use fresh garlic as identified below. [You need only buy a single garlic glove at a time, not bunches.]
Snap a single glove off of the bud. Peel off the skin. Using a non-porous container, such as a glass or Pyrex dish, and a sharp knife, mince and smash the glove, preserving the juice. Once finely minced and smashed, and the juices have been released from the garlic, quickly add meaty foods, such as fresh homemade fish food, or high-quality frozen fish foods. Lightly mix the food in with the garlic so that the food is saturated, but not swimming in garlic juice. Cover your container, and place the mixture in the refrigerator for 5 mins.
Feed your fish, preferably using a syringe or a turkey baster to ensure that fish receives the garlic supplemented food. You can add a small bit of sea water to this mixture to get the mixture into your delivery syringe.
This should be done 3x a day if you are using garlic medicinally.
Allicin is produced immediately upon mincing the garlic glove and quickly breaks down. That is why marketed bottled garlic is virtually useless and the hobbyist needs to use fresh garlic.
If you use fresh garlic it doesn't smell as strong as the Garlic Extreme and is way cheaper, I think like $.20 for for 1 bulb that has many cloves on it. There is a company that makes an item called a Garlic Card ($6) you can get online. It is basically a plastic credit card with "G"'s and "C"'s punched in it. All you do is rub a clove on it and it turns the garlic intoa pureed juice which is perfect for adding to the food. this is way easier then trying to mince it or using a garlic press.
im not trying to get a flaming going into this thread but as for the experts advice (who is truely an expert?) we have no experts on this forum or many others for that fact .i have kept many species of fish for many yrs with success but I am no expert by any means we are all hobbiest..ok yes garlic extreme can tend to be pricey but for as long as one bottle last me its worth that tad i pay extra for easy use(dosing) and keeping.and I will keep using it .what works for one person may not work for another i still say personal research is everyones best bet for keeping their fish healthy dont just rely on other hobbiest to do your homework for you .when it comes to the do's and don'ts of this hobby it tends to be more fad and trends more than accual research and facts
hatessushi
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With all due respect unleashed, what I said about fresh garlic and such is not from being a fad or a trend but is from research and personal experience. The reason I point out what Beth wrote about garlic is because she already wrote it and saved me the time. My personal experience is that i had been using garlic extreme for some time but it wasn't until I used fresh garlic that I actually notice a differentce in my fishes well being. Every fish I have had with the exception of one had lympho which cleared up dramatically with feeding fresh mixed food with fresh garlic and vitamins. These are facts based on my experience.
If you have had good experiences with Garlic Extreme or any other bottled garlic product and it works for you I am not saying to stop using it. You don't have to be an expert to know things based on experience or from reading what experts have written about any subject. Me or anyone else passing that information on to others is just an effort to assist them with an opinion on something they asked a question about.
If you have had good experiences with Garlic Extreme or any other bottled garlic product and it works for you I am not saying to stop using it. You don't have to be an expert to know things based on experience or from reading what experts have written about any subject. Me or anyone else passing that information on to others is just an effort to assist them with an opinion on something they asked a question about.
earlybird
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
No idea why, but my fish definitely love it. I'm going to soak my bait in garlic when I go fishing next time....
I've never done it but it is real popular way to fish around my neck of the woods. A lot of guys spray garlic onto their plugs and are successful.
No idea why, but my fish definitely love it. I'm going to soak my bait in garlic when I go fishing next time....
I've never done it but it is real popular way to fish around my neck of the woods. A lot of guys spray garlic onto their plugs and are successful.
hatessushi
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I'm sure there is some out there but I couldn't tell you where. Maybe someone can chime in on that. I can say if only for myself that I am thoroughly convinced that fresh garlic is beneficial to the fish since I started using it so my experience if only for me is enough research I need.
