Gas prices

jt41484

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1997 chevy 2500 with 48,000 miles on it gets 7 mpg loaded or empty the most i put in at a time is $20.00 about 5 gallons thats at 3.50 gallon regular. Unless its snowing then it gets filled to the top last i recall it was a lil over 100 to fill back at 3.19
 

mckaax

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2523166
Running 90 Octaine in a car designed for 85 will not increase your mileage. CONSISTANTLY running a premium brand with detergent additives to keep the fuel system and valves clean will increase mileage.
Are you telling me that I was lying when I told you I got more miles out of 92 oct than I did with 87?
 

teen

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2523203
Where are you filling up Teen? I paid $3.39 to fill up the other day. Get about 19 mpg in my 04 4Runner.
yea, thats what i paid today as well. last time i got gas before that was last week sometime and paid the $3.23. that was over on 112. not the exxon but some little place about 1/8th a mile south on 112 right off the LIE.
 

jimmy 4

Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2522825
I've got an '05 Ram with the Hemi. The owners manually specificially states that there's no real benefit in running anything other than 89 octane. I've got an '00 Dakota, got nearly 200,000 mile on it. Never ran anything but 89 in it. It's a work truck and always has a load on it. Runs like a top. Why do you run a higher octane? Seems wasteful to me?


Octane is a very stable carbon ring. Its 8 carbons that form a ring. It actually is a fire retardant. It is used in high performance engines because it runs cooler.
 

jimmy 4

Member
Reeferman1;2523226 said:
Subj: TIPS ON PUMPING GAS
>
> Here are some tricks to get
> more of your money's worth for every gallon..
> >
> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
> temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
> storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
> gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in
> the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business,
> the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel,
> ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
>
The gas comes out as a liquid so temp will have no effect on density. Liquids are non compressable. I you compress a liquid you get a solid and gas if you decompress.
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
Originally Posted by mckaax
http:///forum/post/2524245
Are you telling me that I was lying when I told you I got more miles out of 92 oct than I did with 87?
If you got better gas milage out of a higher oct then you did with 85 , it could be because your vehicle was designed to opperate on higher octain and by putting 85 in it you were actually depriving it of the proper fuel , This will cause a decrease in performance and milage as well as a pinging sound made in the engine . Its also used to make gas more stable so higher compresion ratios and modified ignition timing can be used . Basicly if your engine is not designed to run on higher octane your not boosting milage or performance by using it .
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jimmy 4
http:///forum/post/2524408
Octane is a very stable carbon ring. Its 8 carbons that form a ring. It actually is a fire retardant. It is used in high performance engines because it runs cooler.
Actually it is because you can compress it more before it explodes.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by mckaax
http:///forum/post/2524245
Are you telling me that I was lying when I told you I got more miles out of 92 oct than I did with 87?
No, it depends on the particular engine. Fact is you take 2 identical cars that are design to run on 87 Octaine and run 87 in one and 90 in the other there will be no difference in mileage if all other conditions are equal.
All octaine does is increase the amount of pressure gasonine can be subjected to before it spontaniously detonates. An engine with 8.5 to 1 compression ration and a moderate timing curve will se no benefit from running high ocataine.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2524715
No, it depends on the particular engine. Fact is you take 2 identical cars that are design to run on 87 Octaine and run 87 in one and 90 in the other there will be no difference in mileage if all other conditions are equal.
All octaine does is increase the amount of pressure gasonine can be subjected to before it spontaniously detonates. An engine with 8.5 to 1 compression ration and a moderate timing curve will se no benefit from running high ocataine.
It depends on what your motor was designed to run on. Some run better on the higher octane some done. like reefraff said it all depends on the compression ratio and tuning. For instance if I run 87 octain in my 06 si I get loose about 5% of my milage vs the 91 octane. But in my old jeep, there is no difference.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2524728
Don't know where those prices were from but I hadn't seen sub dollar a gallon since the early 80's when I was in the business. Crap I remember when I first started driving a couple rolls of pennies would keep you in gas for a few days.
It was down here a few months after 9-11.
 

mfp1016

Member
Wow, theres definitely some falsities being thrown around about gas, octane. Reefraff, crash, and stdr are right though, thanks for reading guys.
Lastly, octane is not an 8 carbon ring. In fact the particular octane in gasoline, i.e. octane number is iso-octane (CH3)3CCH2CH(CH3)2. Furthermore, cycloalkanes are actually pretty damn volatile, high chem. potential, fugacity, and activity. Although convential organic theory stipulates increased stability due to resonance effects, this is the very same reason they can be so volatile with trivalent compounds.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by mfp1016
http:///forum/post/2524773
Wow, theres definitely some falsities being thrown around about gas, octane. Reefraff, crash, and stdr are right though, thanks for reading guys.
Lastly, octane is not an 8 carbon ring. In fact the particular octane in gasoline, i.e. octane number is iso-octane (CH3)3CCH2CH(CH3)2. Furthermore, cycloalkanes are actually pretty damn volatile, high chem. potential, fugacity, and activity. Although convential organic theory stipulates increased stability due to resonance effects, this is the very same reason they can be so volatile with trivalent compounds.
May I request an english translation?
 
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