Gobbies

viper911

Member
Can somebody tell me how much substrate is required in order to have gobbies. Right now I only have about and inch. I know I need more but how much do I need
Thanks:needhelp:
 
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essop3

Guest
Jawfish need more than most other fish. About 4-6 inches. They bury themselves in a burrow.
 

dskidmore

Active Member
Do you want them to breed? If so an extremely deep sand bed (10") would be good for them. They'll probably be comfortable in normal circumstances with 4-6". I had someone try to convince me I could keep a jawfish in 2-3", but I didn't believe it after reading that they dig hugely deep tunnels for breeding.
 

duke13

Member
I have a Pearly Jaw in my tank and I only have 3 inches of sand. He does just fine and has never dug another hole since his first (I've had him for 6 months now). Now I can't say all Jawfish would be happy in 3 inches, I guess it just depends on the individual fish. BTW, I'm not breeding Jawfish....
 

dskidmore

Active Member
Thanks for the testomony! I may yet reconsider. I'm torn between a Yellowhead Jawfish and a Neon Blue Goby. The goby has the advantage of being a cleaner and not growing as large. The Jawfish however seems to have the most personality. The recomended 5-7" sand bed made the decision for me, that's not practical in a 50 gallon tank. If I could keep him happliy in 3", I'll have to re-think the decision.
 

duke13

Member
I say get the Jawfish, there's just too much personality to pass by. 3 inches is physically adequate as my tank has proved.
 

dskidmore

Active Member
Yeah, but there's also the size factor.
50 Gallon tank
by rule of thumb, that's 10" of fish.
1 Black Cap Basslet 4" +
2 Neon Gobies 2" each
=8"
That gives me room leftover for another tiny, (yet undecided) fish to add at a later date.
1 Black Cap Basslet 4"
2 Yellowhead Jawfish 4" each
=12"
That pushes the bioload over the rule of thumb limit. Probably manageable, but I'd rather go underloaded.
I could just go with one jawfish, and be back at the 8" bioload, but then you miss out on the fish interaction. I love watching fish of the same species interact. If I had a huge tank, I'd fill it with a fleet of small schooling fish.
 

duke13

Member
Not sure how you derive your rule of thumb. Here's mine: Take your tank size and divide by 2, that number equals the suggested inches of adult fish you can have in your tank.
So in your case, you can have 25 inches of adult fish. Now I wouldn't rely on this equation exclusively. I also take into effect of what I call the "poop-o-meter". Essentially you rate how much poo -load your fish are going to excrete.
I don't see a problem with you having your Basslet, 2 Clown Gobies, and
the Pearly Jawfish.
 

reefer44

Member
just curious have you seen a neon goby.....they are definetly not show fish...so tiny u hardly every see them in your tank.....also most often tehy don't clean other fish inles you have some BIG fish in there......but jaw fish will keep your substrate pretty clean and you can easily have on with 1-3" sandbed causae they will just move it into a corner for a little spot to live in.....
Brad
 

reefer44

Member
oh and tank size......trust me you could put alot more fish in that tank if you wanted........i know peaceful and nice 30g with close to 10-15 fish..........
Brad
 

dskidmore

Active Member
I don't mind small fish. My 20 gallon freshwater tank is full of guppies, and my snails are the little 1/4" ones.
My equasion is one inch of fish per 5 gallons of water, or tank size divided by 5. I've heard this one applied to saltwater as often as the 1 inch per gallon is for fresh.
I still have alot of time to think about this while I save up my money.
I've considered the possiblity of a retaining wall with deep sand behind it for the jawfish, so he can burrow as deep as he likes.
 
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