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john kelly

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ahh. They are wounds of some sort, but it looks like they are healing. The surrounding polyps should bend, fold, or criss-cross over them. Leave the grayish brown stuff in/on them; it protects the skeleton from foreign things and from algae attacks. The gray-brown stuff will eventually be pushed out of the wound as it heals (hopefully it does).
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mudplayerx

Active Member
Flowerpots are prone to get many parasites. Are the things that you circled hard tubes? If they are not hard tubes, are the holes in the flowerpot base that detritus comes out of?
In either case I would superglue gel them shut. I have one darn parasite on my red jewel that I am still battling. I also had one on my yellow/brown flowerpot that resembled the "hole" I described. I inserted a feeding prong into the hole and stabbed around a bit to kill whatever was in the hole, then superglued it shut. A polyp grew over the wound within a month.
 

john kelly

Member
Originally Posted by mudplayerx
Flowerpots are prone to get many parasites.
?? If they are, there isn't much documentation of it. Have you actually seen parasites on either one of your gonios? Maybe you can get some photos?
Originally Posted by mudplayerx
Are the things that you circled hard tubes? If they are not hard tubes, are the holes in the flowerpot base that detritus comes out of?
Flowerpots do not have holes for detritus.
Originally Posted by mudplayerx

In either case I would superglue gel them shut. I have one darn parasite on my red jewel that I am still battling. I also had one on my yellow/brown flowerpot that resembled the "hole" I described. I inserted a feeding prong into the hole and stabbed around a bit to kill whatever was in the hole, then superglued it shut. A polyp grew over the wound within a month.
I would seriously leave them alone unless more of them appear. I have/am documenting 3 different species with wounds (holes, torn polyps, abraded tissue) and they heal by filling the areas with some sort of material, then slowly pushing it out as the wound closes, which appears like the stuff in the picture............that is why I asked about it.
Superglue might not be a bad idea if the skeleton is exposed and algae or parasites of some sort have overtaken it.
 

mudplayerx

Active Member
Originally Posted by John Kelly
?? If they are, there isn't much documentation of it. Have you actually seen parasites on either one of your gonios? Maybe you can get some photos?
Flowerpots do not have holes for detritus.
I would seriously leave them alone unless more of them appear. I have/am documenting 3 different species with wounds (holes, torn polyps, abraded tissue) and they heal by filling the areas with some sort of material, then slowly pushing it out as the wound closes, which appears like the stuff in the picture............that is why I asked about it.
Superglue might not be a bad idea if the skeleton is exposed and algae or parasites of some sort have overtaken it.

There's already a thread on the parasites. They appear to be worms that form a tube out of detritus: https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180763 (no pics tho)
As far as the holes with detritus coming out... they are parasites, not a natural part of the flowerpot. My yellow/brown flowerpot was looking sickly before I killed whatever was in the hole. A week or so after killing it the flowerpot recovered.
The red jewel also filled out nicely after I plugged the calcareous tubes that were protruding out if it's flesh. I'm still battling the worm mentioned in the above link though. Every once in awhile it finds a hole in the superglue "shield" and consumes a polyp or two before I seal it up again. Really IRRITATES me.
 

john kelly

Member
Originally Posted by mudplayerx
There's already a thread on the parasites. They appear to be worms that form a tube out of detritus: https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180763 (no pics tho)
As far as the holes with detritus coming out... they are parasites, not a natural part of the flowerpot. My yellow/brown flowerpot was looking sickly before I killed whatever was in the hole. A week or so after killing it the flowerpot recovered.
I see what you are saying now
. Your saying that a small (hollow) tube of silky looking detritus covered material is constructed (quickly/overnight) in the spot where a polyp was the day before. The polyp is being devoured and whatever is devouring it creates a tube.
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Originally Posted by mudplayerx

The red jewel also filled out nicely after I plugged the calcareous tubes that were protruding out if it's flesh. I'm still battling the worm mentioned in the above link though. Every once in awhile it finds a hole in the superglue "shield" and consumes a polyp or two before I seal it up again. Really IRRITATES me.
It would be super if you could get a pic of what it all looks like. Did you ever end up trying a fresh water dip or Iodine dip to see if the creature would abandon ship?
 

john kelly

Member
How's this?

1. Small feather duster tube that the Goni has grown around (still alive).
2. This is part of an old tunnel that is healing over.
3. Fresh exit hole. The grayish looking material comes from the Goni. The gray stuff acts as a filler in the wound to rebuild tissue over the old skeleton; it probably is an infection fighter too.....In one of my other specimens, in which a polyp was torn off (no worm), the stuff is not originally gray, but more of a greenish color with a sticky cotton-like texture when it is fresh. The stuff collects debris as it accumulates, turns into dead tissue, and then turns gray. As the wound closes, it comes out and falls away. The worm has already caused the damage, the coral is trying to heal itself, and the worm is burrowing through the stuff. I have older photos where the worm has burrowed, but before the coral started healing itself.
4. Another old burrowing area, which is healing over.
It appears as if the worm moves or burrows along the tops of the corallite ridges. I imagine the feather duster is putting out offspring underneath the coral tissue and then the offspring has to burrow out. It doesn't appear to be eating polyps, just burrowing. If the tissue connected to the corallite ridge is damaged enough, it will cause the whole polyp to die.
Solution: Kill the feather duster, leave the tube and close it with super glue, the offspring burrows out (if that's what it is and if it leaves the goni), goni heals itself.
 
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