good beginner herps

sharkboy13

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Originally Posted by petjunkie
It' s tokay geckos! Off a care sheet " As Tokay geckos are nocturnal, ultra-violet lighting is not necessary but can be used for aesthetic purposes " And snakes don't need it either. Also some frogs I thought.
no frogs need it
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rykna
Really????? Man I would choose my iguana or my corn snake over a cat any day. My iguana Dragon was litter trained, she loved to ride in the car, and go to the beach. The problem with a lot of reptiles is that there aren't many vets out there that know how to treat theses animals. I paid one vet who was advertised as certified in the care of exoctic pets including iguanans. I took Dragon in looking forward to hearing how she was doing and whether or not I was giving her proper care. I paid $125 dollars to have the vet tell me she was a nice green color!!! :mad: I also lost Dragon to another supposedly certifeid vet. Dragon had started changing to a sickly orange color. It crept up her legs and slowly corvered her body. The vet diagnosed it a metabolic bone disease. A very tipicle problem with reptiles, a lot of owners aren't feeding their green friends enough calcium causing dicoloration and fragile bones and eventually death. I knew this was not the problem with Dragon, but I trusted the vet to do what was best. In the end a long over due exray of her corpse revealed that Dragon had died of impacted eggs. Her own body had poisoned her......the vet apologized many times over. That was many years ago. Iguanas take a lot of time, almost as much time as having a 2 year old. A beautiful animal.
thats exactly why i put them under the thread that most hobbyists should avoid unless they have lots of experience and time
 

rykna

Active Member
aaahhh right....um yeahhh. te he, guess I just got a little wordy there.
I don't harbor any bad feelings toward's vets who claim to know stuff any really don't know @#$@*.
 

rykna

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:scared: and how did he come up with that diagnosis???? X ray vision???????
sighhhhhhh.......
 

krj-1168

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The best monitors for beginners aren't savannas. Savanna's after all still grow to about 3.5-4' long. The best monitors for beginners are members of the dwarf monitor groups.
The most popular being - Ackies - or Spiny-tailed monitors (V. acanthurus) - While in the wild they can reach up to 32", in captivity they rarely grow much above 24". There are generally considered to be two subspecies - the Red & Yellow forms. They can easily be kept in almost the same conditions as beardies(ie. hot, sandy desert like conditions). Breeding pairs or trios can be kept in a standard 180 gallon tank.
The Timor monitors are about the same about the same size as ackies - but the come a more tropical forest like habitat.
 

sharkboy13

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no i at the time didnt no that he was wrong until she got skinnier and i found eggs, which may i add hatched into beautiful anoles, they wer all really funky to, they had patches where they were lighter and darker, so when they changed color to regulate temp they would have like live rock color splotches and then like the rest be sort of colored like an orbic batfish, i had to sell them, it was a really cool tank. i had like a little pond area where my tiger and fire salamander and firebelly newts hung out. and sort of a hill that went up to a base of vines that stretched back to the pond area and all around the top, thats where my anoles, various geckoes, an green snake hung out. sadly i had to get rid of it because the humidity of it was causing mold, and accompanying my severe allergy to nuts is a severe allergy to mold. so i gave the tank and its inhabitants to a close friend that used to work at my lfs until recently when he was killed in a car accident, in his will he left it to me but now it resides at the Vermont Institute of Natual Science where they teach the public
 

rykna

Active Member
Wow!!!!! I'm sorry to hear about your friend, that was a wonderful teaching tool you donated to the science insitute!!!!!
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
Originally Posted by krj-1168
The best monitors for beginners aren't savannas. Savanna's after all still grow to about 3.5-4' long. The best monitors for beginners are members of the dwarf monitor groups.
The most popular being - Ackies - or Spiny-tailed monitors (V. acanthurus) - While in the wild they can reach up to 32", in captivity they rarely grow much above 24". There are generally considered to be two subspecies - the Red & Yellow forms. They can easily be kept in almost the same conditions as beardies(ie. hot, sandy desert like conditions). Breeding pairs or trios can be kept in a standard 180 gallon tank.
The Timor monitors are about the same about the same size as ackies - but the come a more tropical forest like habitat.
i agree w/ nearly evrything u said, except the timor part. from my experience timors r very aggressive which can be discouraging to the beginner hobbyist
 

beth

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Staff member
Here is my take on keeping herbs of any kind:
Like fish, be sure to cover all the bases before you leap into keeping reptiles. Do the research, read the books, join a rep forum, be sure that you know everything about the reptile you wish to keep before diving into getting one. This is particularly true of reptiles that grow very large. Don’t just go to the pet shop and pick up a rep while you are window shopping. Don’t get one for your kid, until you and s/he have done your homework and know what you are getting into.
Realize that many reptiles will live a very long time. Some 30+ years. Keeping a reptile can be a lifetime commitment; keeping one should not be viewed as a passing phase.
Keep in mind that if you have children, or will have children in the future, that there are other risks involved with also keeping a reptile. Danger, parasites, salmonella.
Be ready to put money out up front to create an appropriate environment for your reptile. Granted, unlike fish, once you set up an appropriate environment for your herb, it usually is not an ongoing expense, but these animals do require specialized care, and you have to assume the responsibility of providing them with that care. Reptiles that get very large will need a room of their own some day, so keep that in mind. Reptiles can not be left outside either, or in enclosures outdoors where temperature is not regulated.
Know that your reptile needs regular care from a herpetological vet. Herps are animals just like cats and dogs, and they need routine checkups and the availability of a knowledgeable vet to take care of them. Don't underestimate the importance of this. Illness and diseases in reptiles, unlike cats and dogs, can easily go unnoticed until it is too late. Your pet rep should be seen annually for a checkup. You should also take your rep to a vet as soon as you get it, so that parasites and incoming diseases can be nipped in the bud right up front. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that your rep is healthy. Most reps coming from stores have parasites. A good herp vet can help you learn how to detect problems and deal with them.
Reptiles are great pets. Fun and beautiful. But feeding time with many reptiles can be a significant downside, so if you are squeamish or hate sacrificing live prey, then you may need to consider a more traditional type pet.
And lastly, any herp owner needs to take on the responsibility of keeping their reptile pet's living area very clean, with adequate water. Just like fish tanks, a dirty, inappropriate environment will quickly lead to a sick herp. Keep things clean, and change out water at least daily.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
Here is my take on keeping herbs of any kind:
Like fish, be sure to cover all the bases before you leap into keeping reptiles. Do the research, read the books, join a rep forum, be sure that you know everything about the reptile you wish to keep before diving into getting one. This is particularly true of reptiles that grow very large. Don’t just go to the pet shop and pick up a rep while you are window shopping. Don’t get one for your kid, until you and s/he have done your homework and know what you are getting into.
Realize that many reptiles will live a very long time. Some 30+ years. Keeping a reptile can be a lifetime commitment; keeping one should not be viewed as a passing phase.
Keep in mind that if you have children, or will have children in the future, that there are other risks involved with also keeping a reptile. Danger, parasites, salmonella.
Be ready to put money out up front to create an appropriate environment for your reptile. Granted, unlike fish, once you set up an appropriate environment for your herb, it usually is not an ongoing expense, but these animals do require specialized care, and you have to assume the responsibility of providing them with that care. Reptiles that get very large will need a room of their own some day, so keep that in mind. Reptiles can not be left outside either, or in enclosures outdoors where temperature is not regulated.
Know that your reptile needs regular care from a herpetological vet. Herps are animals just like cats and dogs, and they need routine checkups and the availability of a knowledgeable vet to take care of them. Don't underestimate the importance of this. Illness and diseases in reptiles, unlike cats and dogs, can easily go unnoticed until it is too late. Your pet rep should be seen annually for a checkup. You should also take your rep to a vet as soon as you get it, so that parasites and incoming diseases can be nipped in the bud right up front. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that your rep is healthy. Most reps coming from stores have parasites. A good herp vet can help you learn how to detect problems and deal with them.
Reptiles are great pets. Fun and beautiful. But feeding time with many reptiles can be a significant downside, so if you are squeamish or hate sacrificing live prey, then you may need to consider a more traditional type pet.
And lastly, any herp owner needs to take on the responsibility of keeping their reptile pet's living area very clean, with adequate water. Just like fish tanks, a dirty, inappropriate environment will quickly lead to a sick herp. Keep things clean, and change out water at least daily.
couldnt agree more
 

new2salt1

Member
I dont mean to change the subject, but Im curious if anyone here has experimented with UVB lighting used on coral reef tanks. Since UVB lighting enables turtles to absorb calcium, Im wondering if the same would apply to skeletal corals.
If anyone has info, Im all ears. The ballast on my BioCube broke. I have 5 days til I get my new one, and my corals are living without actinic. I was thinking of putting the UVB over them, but my only skeletal coral (elegance) is rare and expensive and I dont want to mess with him. Iwill probably proceed with caution and just keep the 10000K lights on all day, but Im interested if the logic of my idea actually holds true in real life applications.
 

keri

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just one quick thing because I have to run (but i'll be back to the thread!) leopards don't need uvb :)
 

30-xtra high

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i'd change the corn snakes one, they deffinatly get bigger than 3 feet., my ghost corn snake (color alteration) is 58 inches, and my regular corn snake is 40 inches and still an adolescent.
 

ice4ice

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Originally Posted by windmill
I've always been quite fond of Komodo dragons. Always so friendly and eager to slobber on an open wound.
ROFLMAO !! Yeah right - go ahead and keep one !! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!
 
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