Har algae..HELP

flower

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I have hair algae, and it is spreading, it is not yet out of control but it does not take much for things like HA to go bad in a hurry. I want to keep other algae that I want in the tank alive and yet kill off the hair algae….any suggestions?
This is my SH tank so what will eat hair algae that can go in this tank and yet not destroy my corals or desired macos?
 

nikesb

Active Member
sea hare will eat it but will die when the hair algae is gone.
as for your other macros, they should begin outcompeting the gha once they grow bigger
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeSB http:///forum/thread/385287/har-algae-help#post_3378207
sea hare will eat it but will die when the hair algae is gone.
as for your other macros, they should begin outcompeting the gha once they grow bigger
LOL...Maybe we can set up a community sea hare..I get rid of my HA and send it on the next needy person. Send it off in the same packing material he was sent in, just add a new plastic bag and maybe a hot pocket for the winter months.
Encouraging That the macos will outcompete...but I fear the HA will be way out of control by the time the macros mature enough and outcompete the macros
 

slice

Active Member
I just nipped in the bud an emerging HA outbreak. It happened from a couple of weeks of sloppy feedings.
(there is that biotope trying to seek balance thing again)
I manually pulled off all I could; took a toothbrush to the rest (with a powerfilter borrowed from the QT running).
I then brought in a gang of Astrea snails and a couple small Mex Turbos. That was a week ago, now all my rock is pristine.
I now will have to feed the expanded CUC to keep them alive and ready for any future outbreak.
as a related aside, dovetailling with what nike said, I've read posts in other forums by reliable sources, Anthony Calfo, most notably, that reducing your photoperiod to reduce HA is not a good idea. The reduction of light will also hinder the beneficial algae and nutrient eaters in the system that tries to outcompete the HA. This may be especially true in this case, with other macros in the tank.
 

novahobbies

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Slice has pretty much hit it on the head. I know you have that non-removable rock wall; I presume the algae is on that??
I had a similar problem when I let it get a little out of hand on my foam rock column. Couldn't very well remove that either. My main choice of battle gear was a toothbrush, frequent water changes, and snails. I also used a little chemical warfare, but I wouldn't recommend it to you since you have macroalgae in the tank.
It seems to me that the smaller mexican turbo snails do a better job at QUICKLY mowing down HA. Larger ones move slower, seem lile they eat less, and of course they're much bigger bulldozers to contend with. I would choose at least 4 small Mexican turbos.
If your HA is actually BRYOPSIS, then I would definitely suggest you read up on Magnesium additives. You increase your Mg levels to 1600ppm (iirc) but you MUST have a good Mg test kit, and test daily. It did work for me, but at the cost of an Acan frag....they may not like the excess Mg, or perhaps I went too quickly and shocked it. Everything else in my tank survived just fine, and the Bryopsis patch I had is long gone.
Some people have had success with Lettuce sea slugs, but from what I've read it's a hit-or-miss game if they will actually eat HA or not. Apparently there are multiple species of slugs that are given the generic aquarium-trade name "lettuce sea slug" and they don't all eat the same thing.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/385287/har-algae-help#post_3378211
I just nipped in the bud an emerging HA outbreak. It happened from a couple of weeks of sloppy feedings.
(there is that biotope trying to seek balance thing again)
I manually pulled off all I could; took a toothbrush to the rest (with a powerfilter borrowed from the QT running).
I then brought in a gang of Astrea snails and a couple small Mex Turbos. That was a week ago, now all my rock is pristine.
I now will have to feed the expanded CUC to keep them alive and ready for any future outbreak.
as a related aside, dovetailling with what nike said, I've read posts in other forums by reliable sources, Anthony Calfo, most notably, that reducing your photoperiod to reduce HA is not a good idea. The reduction of light will also hinder the beneficial algae and nutrient eaters in the system that tries to outcompete the HA. This may be especially true in this case, with other macros in the tank.
Quote:
Originally Posted by novahobbies
http:///forum/thread/385287/har-algae-help#post_3378438
Slice has pretty much hit it on the head. I know you have that non-removable rock wall; I presume the algae is on that??
I had a similar problem when I let it get a little out of hand on my foam rock column. Couldn't very well remove that either. My main choice of battle gear was a toothbrush, frequent water changes, and snails. I also used a little chemical warfare, but I wouldn't recommend it to you since you have macroalgae in the tank.
It seems to me that the smaller mexican turbo snails do a better job at QUICKLY mowing down HA. Larger ones move slower, seem lile they eat less, and of course they're much bigger bulldozers to contend with. I would choose at least 4 small Mexican turbos.
If your HA is actually BRYOPSIS, then I would definitely suggest you read up on Magnesium additives. You increase your Mg levels to 1600ppm (iirc) but you MUST have a good Mg test kit, and test daily. It did work for me, but at the cost of an Acan frag....they may not like the excess Mg, or perhaps I went too quickly and shocked it. Everything else in my tank survived just fine, and the Bryopsis patch I had is long gone.
Some people have had success with Lettuce sea slugs, but from what I've read it's a hit-or-miss game if they will actually eat HA or not. Apparently there are multiple species of slugs that are given the generic aquarium-trade name "lettuce sea slug" and they don't all eat the same thing.
It does not look like bryopsis to me. The hair algae is indeed on my unremovable rock wall. It isn't long enough to really pluck. A few rocks are fuzzy but even after putting a shield between that section of rock and the light...it is still getting fuzzier. The back wall does not get as much current as the center of the tank. My SHs were very messy eaters until I got them used to the feeding station.
There are no power heads in this tank because it is a SH tank and little tails cling to things they shouldn't. I have two spray bars as my return water from the sump. (2Quills built it)
I was afraid to rub it and spread spores...are you guys saying for me to indeed rub it with a new toothbruch? (mark it fish only) What use is the power head?
 

slice

Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower
It does not look like bryopsis to me. The hair algae is indeed on my unremovable rock wall. It isn't long enough to really pluck. A few rocks are fuzzy but even after putting a shield between that section of rock and the light...it is still getting fuzzier. The back wall does not get as much current as the center of the tank. My SHs were very messy eaters until I got them used to the feeding station.
There are no power heads in this tank because it is a SH tank and little tails cling to things they shouldn't. I have two spray bars as my return water from the sump. (2Quills built it)
I was afraid to rub it and spread spores...are you guys saying for me to indeed rub it with a new toothbruch? (mark it fish only) What use is the power head?
Flower, I believe you were one of the first ones a year or so ago, who advised me to get the length of HA down so the CUC could handle it. I've heeded your advice ever since, so yeah, do what Flower advises.
I used a powerfilter
as I brushed, to pull out as much brushed debris as possible. Left it going in the DT for a day.
 

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/385287/har-algae-help#post_3378632
Flower, I believe you were one of the first ones a year or so ago, who advised me to get the length of HA down so the CUC could handle it. I've heeded your advice ever since, so yeah, do what Flower advises.
I can't, it's a seahorse tank, nothing like a Kole tang or lawnmower blenny can live with them. Aside from snails that don't eat HA what CUC critter can go in this tank?.....what can I do?
 

flower

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It eats shrimp according to my Google search results, it says to not keep it with a cleaner shrimp which is much larger than my peppermint shrimp. Aside from eating shrimp it sounded like a great choice.
My Stock list:
2 Yellow clown gobies (I can put them in another tank)
5 Peppermint shrimp (I have aptasia so they are needed)
4 Erectus seahorses
Soft corals
2 Feather duster worms
Red Frilly sponge
So with my stock list what can I do?
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by novahobbies http:///forum/thread/385287/har-algae-help#post_3378894
Sorry, I actually meant Hector's Gby. I'm REALLY tired...got em switched.

Poor thing...did the switch go smoothly or are too tired to notice the outcome yet?...Thank you for the Hector goby suggestion...it's $20.00 not too bad, so that is what I will do. Thanks so much!
EDIT:
$54.98 with shipping! SWF does not have them, so I have to take a chance on another online store...Well that means it is going to be a while. Maybe I can get TLFS to order one and save the shipping.
 

1guydude

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I can get TLFS to order one and save the shipping
+1
special requests might take awhile though...
ive yet to order any fish online because of the shipping costs lol and i live in the NW, prob dosent help
 

meowzer

Moderator
You have to look for shipping specials......AND REMEMBER....usually when you buy online you pay no tax....so that makes up for some of the shipping costs too.....
 

1guydude

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true true.....not take away from the OP but when i go to make a cart in the freeshipping area it never works! Am i allowed to have other stuff in their as well or do i have to only order free shipping stuff and have it add up to the $80 or watever...
 

flower

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Not only does Illinios charge tax for on online purchases, but they are trying to go back to the year 2004 or something. They are giving us time to come forward on our own to pay said tax or they will come after us later. Like I know exactly what I spent in those years, and like now I want to pay accumulated taxes on crap the state didn't tax back then but wants to now. How is that legal?
 
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