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patti w
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just wondering if its really helpful..
btldreef
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Originally Posted by GeoJ http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381165
I just looked it up. I took a thirty second look at the product line and I don't think I would buy it.
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Originally Posted by GeoJ http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381165
I just looked it up. I took a thirty second look at the product line and I don't think I would buy it.
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aquaripure
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Originally Posted by patti w http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
Hi Patti,
My name is John Strawn and I own Aquaripure. I sell about 20 Aquaripure filters every week and I have a lot of repeat customers and referral buyers. Also, all of the testimonials on the website are 100% real and I always get at least a few new ones every week. I would suggest to anyone reading this that you take the feedback of actual customers over random strangers who have never used the product and know nothing about it.
John Strawn
Aquaripure, LLC
www.aquaripure.com
Originally Posted by patti w http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
Hi Patti,
My name is John Strawn and I own Aquaripure. I sell about 20 Aquaripure filters every week and I have a lot of repeat customers and referral buyers. Also, all of the testimonials on the website are 100% real and I always get at least a few new ones every week. I would suggest to anyone reading this that you take the feedback of actual customers over random strangers who have never used the product and know nothing about it.
John Strawn
Aquaripure, LLC
www.aquaripure.com
flower
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Originally Posted by patti w http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
Vodka dosing, unless you have a good skimmer is dangerous to try. Aquaripure is vodka dosing and we have yet to hear Mr. Strawn explain here, or on the web sites of customers he mentions ..... why his gizmo is safer than just dosing with vodka.
I paid $6.00 for the vodka, and used a doser from my Aptasia X, but you can get one from a RX for about $2.00 for dosing childrens meds....he wants upward of $300.00 for his Aquaripure gizmo.
Originally Posted by patti w http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
I paid $6.00 for the vodka, and used a doser from my Aptasia X, but you can get one from a RX for about $2.00 for dosing childrens meds....he wants upward of $300.00 for his Aquaripure gizmo.
aquaripure
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381823
Vodka dosing, unless you have a good skimmer is dangerous to try. Aquaripure is vodka dosing and we have yet to hear Mr. Strawn explain here, or on the web sites of customers he mentions ..... why his gizmo is safer than just dosing with vodka.
I paid $6.00 for the vodka, and used a doser from my Aptasia X, but you can get one from a RX for about $2.00 for dosing childrens meds....he wants upward of $300.00 for his Aquaripure gizmo.
I did answer your question on the other thread. Maybe you should re-read it. I also explain why Aquaripure is NOT the same as vodka dosing. Not even close. I don't know why you are telling me I didn't take the time to answer your question when I did. If you have figured out the correct vodka dose for your tank and it's doing a decent enough job for you then congratulations. However, I have read a lot of horror stories about direct vodka dosing and a lot of inverts are particularly susceptible to it. It's not something I'd really encourage even if I didn't make Aquaripure. If someone tries it they should proceed with great caution. I work extremely hard to provide a good quality product that is safe and works well thank you very much.
John Strawn
Aquaripure LLC
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381823
I paid $6.00 for the vodka, and used a doser from my Aptasia X, but you can get one from a RX for about $2.00 for dosing childrens meds....he wants upward of $300.00 for his Aquaripure gizmo.
I did answer your question on the other thread. Maybe you should re-read it. I also explain why Aquaripure is NOT the same as vodka dosing. Not even close. I don't know why you are telling me I didn't take the time to answer your question when I did. If you have figured out the correct vodka dose for your tank and it's doing a decent enough job for you then congratulations. However, I have read a lot of horror stories about direct vodka dosing and a lot of inverts are particularly susceptible to it. It's not something I'd really encourage even if I didn't make Aquaripure. If someone tries it they should proceed with great caution. I work extremely hard to provide a good quality product that is safe and works well thank you very much.
John Strawn
Aquaripure LLC
aquaripure
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https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/384495/aquaripure-nitrate-filters
I answered you question here.
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381823
we have yet to hear Mr. Strawn explain here, or on the web sites of customers he mentions ..... why his gizmo is safer than just dosing with vodka.
I answered you question here.
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381823
we have yet to hear Mr. Strawn explain here, or on the web sites of customers he mentions ..... why his gizmo is safer than just dosing with vodka.
aquaripure
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I just want everyone who reads this thread to be clear and I'd like to elaborate a bit on the difference between direct vodka dosing and the Aquaripure.
The Aquaripure does not need and in fact can replace a skimmer. The bacteria in the Aquaripure absorb all the vodka and the entire process is contained within the Aquaripure. The end result is an aquarium that is really just like a healthy natural ecosystem.
With direct vodka dosing the bacteria and biological processes occur in the Aquarium itself. This really isn't natural. Everything I have read about it indicates that a very good skimmer (costing as much or more as the Aquaripure) is definitely needed since you will need to pull the bacteria out of the tank and you need to really aerate the water as the direct vodka dosing can lower the O2 in the tank itself, moreso and much more quickly than the Aquaripure with it's slow flow rate. The biggest danger with direct vodka dosing in too much O2 depletion. Everywhere I read suggests small daily vodka dosing to be safe. Also, you will need to empty and clean that nasty skimmer cup more often, probably what twice a week? I don't know as I haven't used a skimmer in years and do not want to. That scum cup is nasty.
Most users find they can just inject the Aquaripure just once a week once nitrates are zero. So you have daily dosing and frequent cleaning of a nasty scum cup vs once a week dosing and no nasty scum cup. Also, there is definitely less risk of accidentally dosing too much or other complications. Also the Aquaripure works fantastic in freshwater systems as no skimmer is needed. So to those who want to use direct vodka dosing, enjoy cleaning your scum cup : )
Kind Regards,
John Strawn
Aquaripure LLC
The Aquaripure does not need and in fact can replace a skimmer. The bacteria in the Aquaripure absorb all the vodka and the entire process is contained within the Aquaripure. The end result is an aquarium that is really just like a healthy natural ecosystem.
With direct vodka dosing the bacteria and biological processes occur in the Aquarium itself. This really isn't natural. Everything I have read about it indicates that a very good skimmer (costing as much or more as the Aquaripure) is definitely needed since you will need to pull the bacteria out of the tank and you need to really aerate the water as the direct vodka dosing can lower the O2 in the tank itself, moreso and much more quickly than the Aquaripure with it's slow flow rate. The biggest danger with direct vodka dosing in too much O2 depletion. Everywhere I read suggests small daily vodka dosing to be safe. Also, you will need to empty and clean that nasty skimmer cup more often, probably what twice a week? I don't know as I haven't used a skimmer in years and do not want to. That scum cup is nasty.
Most users find they can just inject the Aquaripure just once a week once nitrates are zero. So you have daily dosing and frequent cleaning of a nasty scum cup vs once a week dosing and no nasty scum cup. Also, there is definitely less risk of accidentally dosing too much or other complications. Also the Aquaripure works fantastic in freshwater systems as no skimmer is needed. So to those who want to use direct vodka dosing, enjoy cleaning your scum cup : )
Kind Regards,
John Strawn
Aquaripure LLC
spanko
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Please, John and everyone else don't get me wrong. There are many ways to skin a cat and the Aquaripure filter is probably one of the ways. Sounds like it works, am guessing the carbon dosing is still feeding the heterotrophic bacteria colony that are reducing the nitrates correct John? Those bacteria are the reason the O2 depletion occurs in tanks and the skimmer is required as well as to remove the dead and dying bacteria. Does this not happen in your filter also?
Like I said folks lots of ways to accomplish things in this hobby and whatever works for you is what you tend to gravitate to and talk about. Neozeo, NP pellets and I am sure many more.
As always do your research before anything and know what you are getting into before you do it.If you read post #27 in this thread you will see that I know of the risks that John talks about with direct dosing and wasam willing to take them.
Good luck with the product John and I wish you success.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/353706/vodka-dosing/20
Like I said folks lots of ways to accomplish things in this hobby and whatever works for you is what you tend to gravitate to and talk about. Neozeo, NP pellets and I am sure many more.
As always do your research before anything and know what you are getting into before you do it.If you read post #27 in this thread you will see that I know of the risks that John talks about with direct dosing and wasam willing to take them.
Good luck with the product John and I wish you success.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/353706/vodka-dosing/20
aquaripure
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@ Spanko- Yes, of course there are many different ways to maintain a relatively healthy and balanced aquarium. Some are better than others and there are some things that are commonly used that I do not believe in (like ozone.) Most things have their pros and cons. Of course I am partial to my product and it's not just because it's my company and my livelihood. I grew this company and continue to try and do so BECAUSE I believe in it so much. I quit a good career to run Aquaripure full time several years ago. I really do think it's the best option out there. Of course, it is not the only one.
The risk of O2 depletion is not an issue with Aquaripure because the flow rate is always going to be set relatively slow. The effluent of the Aquaripure has no O2 in it but with normal circulation the O2 levels quickly balance out and become normalized. The risk with direct vodka dosing is always going to be too much of a bacterial bloom in the aquarium itself and that can really suck all the O2 out of your tank in the blink of an eye and kill everything very quickly if done incorrectly. With the Aquaripure as long as the flow rate is set to the proper relatively slow flow rate there is no risk.
@Kiefers- I have a 1 year limited warranty that covers the pump and any other part that might need to be replaced. I used to have a money back guarantee but it really doesn't make sense to have that. Most of the people that took advantage of it are people that are moving or otherwise just decided to get rid of their aquariums, etc.
The risk of O2 depletion is not an issue with Aquaripure because the flow rate is always going to be set relatively slow. The effluent of the Aquaripure has no O2 in it but with normal circulation the O2 levels quickly balance out and become normalized. The risk with direct vodka dosing is always going to be too much of a bacterial bloom in the aquarium itself and that can really suck all the O2 out of your tank in the blink of an eye and kill everything very quickly if done incorrectly. With the Aquaripure as long as the flow rate is set to the proper relatively slow flow rate there is no risk.
@Kiefers- I have a 1 year limited warranty that covers the pump and any other part that might need to be replaced. I used to have a money back guarantee but it really doesn't make sense to have that. Most of the people that took advantage of it are people that are moving or otherwise just decided to get rid of their aquariums, etc.
nikesb
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so if i understand this correctly, your filter is using a different media other than carbon based materials that harvest a certain type of bacteria to eat up?
while i am still weary of it, it makes sense. i've used carbon-dosing before (another bacteria driven system) and was happy with it.
as for others, dont be too afraid of vodka dosing if you have the right equipment (large skimmers). establishing the bacterial colonies can cause rapid O2 depletion, but having a large skimmer can prevent a crash easily.
while i am still weary of it, it makes sense. i've used carbon-dosing before (another bacteria driven system) and was happy with it.
as for others, dont be too afraid of vodka dosing if you have the right equipment (large skimmers). establishing the bacterial colonies can cause rapid O2 depletion, but having a large skimmer can prevent a crash easily.
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lizardlady58
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I have used aquaripure on my fifty gallon for years and never had a nitrite or nitrate or ammonia spike for that matter. My fish and invertebrates are healthy and some even spawn on a regular basis. I am very happy with this product and would recommend it to anyone.
flower
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Originally Posted by patti w http:///t/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
I was so happy with the one I had on my 90g reef, that I purchased another one for the 56g. It's maintenance free, you never clean it...just inject a little vodka (8cc for the large one and 4cc for the smaller one) into it once a week (even comes with the injector)....and it works awesome, it fact it's maybe the only piece of equipment I ever had, that actually does what it promises to do. My nitrates were a steady 20, after the Aquripure was up and running.... it was a beautiful 0, and it never went up again.
Now I have macroalgae on both of my tanks, I converted my 90g from a reef to Potbelly seahorses, macroalgae not only eliminates nitrates, but phosphates as well...and macroalgae is cheaper. At this time, I put my Aquaripure in storage since I don't need them anymore...but one injection of good bacteria (that can be purchased from the manufacturer for $8.00) and they are both good to go.
Macroalgae I think is the better route, it's cheaper, and it takes care of much more then just nitrates,
Originally Posted by patti w http:///t/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3381103
just wondering if its really helpful..
I was so happy with the one I had on my 90g reef, that I purchased another one for the 56g. It's maintenance free, you never clean it...just inject a little vodka (8cc for the large one and 4cc for the smaller one) into it once a week (even comes with the injector)....and it works awesome, it fact it's maybe the only piece of equipment I ever had, that actually does what it promises to do. My nitrates were a steady 20, after the Aquripure was up and running.... it was a beautiful 0, and it never went up again.
Now I have macroalgae on both of my tanks, I converted my 90g from a reef to Potbelly seahorses, macroalgae not only eliminates nitrates, but phosphates as well...and macroalgae is cheaper. At this time, I put my Aquaripure in storage since I don't need them anymore...but one injection of good bacteria (that can be purchased from the manufacturer for $8.00) and they are both good to go.
Macroalgae I think is the better route, it's cheaper, and it takes care of much more then just nitrates,
flower
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Originally Posted by nikeSB http:///t/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3382222
so if i understand this correctly, your filter is using a different media other than carbon based materials that harvest a certain type of bacteria to eat up?
while i am still weary of it, it makes sense. i've used carbon-dosing before (another bacteria driven system) and was happy with it.
as for others, dont be too afraid of vodka dosing if you have the right equipment (large skimmers). establishing the bacterial colonies can cause rapid O2 depletion, but having a large skimmer can prevent a crash easily.
The Aquaripure is vodka (carbon) dosing, but much, much safer and you don't need to have the huge expensive skimmer to keep everything from dying.
Originally Posted by nikeSB http:///t/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3382222
so if i understand this correctly, your filter is using a different media other than carbon based materials that harvest a certain type of bacteria to eat up?
while i am still weary of it, it makes sense. i've used carbon-dosing before (another bacteria driven system) and was happy with it.
as for others, dont be too afraid of vodka dosing if you have the right equipment (large skimmers). establishing the bacterial colonies can cause rapid O2 depletion, but having a large skimmer can prevent a crash easily.
The Aquaripure is vodka (carbon) dosing, but much, much safer and you don't need to have the huge expensive skimmer to keep everything from dying.
beaslbob
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Quote:Originally Posted by rusting http:///t/385512/has-anyone-used-a-nitrate-filter-such-as-aquaripure#post_3533869
you can save money by doing weekly water changes of 20-25%
Water changes will limit but not prevent nitrates or anything else.
for instance if the tank is generating nitrates at 1 ppm/day and you do a 10% water change every 10 days with 0 nitrate water, the tank will settle down at 100ppm nitrates just before the water changes.
IMHO you should balance out the tank so it is not increasing nitrates. then the amount of water changes are irrelevant.
Personally I think it best to balance out the system right from the start with macro or other algaes. so that nitrates (along with ammonia, phosphates, and carbon dioxide) are recycled into fish food and oxygen.
But that's just my .02
you can save money by doing weekly water changes of 20-25%
Water changes will limit but not prevent nitrates or anything else.
for instance if the tank is generating nitrates at 1 ppm/day and you do a 10% water change every 10 days with 0 nitrate water, the tank will settle down at 100ppm nitrates just before the water changes.
IMHO you should balance out the tank so it is not increasing nitrates. then the amount of water changes are irrelevant.
Personally I think it best to balance out the system right from the start with macro or other algaes. so that nitrates (along with ammonia, phosphates, and carbon dioxide) are recycled into fish food and oxygen.
But that's just my .02