Have A Question...copper In Tank

[marinerock]

HI ALL.....
JUST A QUICK QUESTION.....
HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD MAINTAIN A LOW LEVEL
OF COPPER IN THEIR MAIN TANKS? OF COURSE...FISH ONLY TANKS...........
IF SO...
DO YOU FEEL IT HAS HELPED TO KEEP PROBLEMS TO A MINIMUM IN YOUR FISH ONLY TANK?
HAVE A GREAT DAY !!!
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK

 

[drkegel]

I'm right here, there's no need to YELL! Thanks.

 

[krishj39]

drkegel. My thoughts exactly. Etiquette for writing on the internet is not to use all caps. All caps are used to indicate you are mad and yelling, or trying to emphasize a word.
Marinerock, I have not kept a FO tank. However, I think the majority of people on this forum strive to keep things as natural as possible, and so probably don't maintain levels of copper.

 

[jferrier]

GET OVER IT!!!! IS THIS HURTING YOUR EARS? PLEASE GO OUTSIDE AND LEAVE YOUR COMPUTER AND GET SOME FRESH AIR.

 

[krishj39]

ow! ouch! my ears! stop that and I can't go outside, I'm at work. You are right though, it really isn't a big deal, just a socially accepted common courtesy.

 

[jferrier]

Yeah me too. Guess we should be WORKING! Oh... back to the original question.
To keep enough of a copper level to be effective against parasitic diseases you could likely be doing damage to the fishes internal organs because of prolonged exposure to copper. I would try more natural methods like better water filtration, food supplements, a good varied diet, and maybe some cleaners if your tank permits.

 

[marinerock]

HI ALL....
FIRST....THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES....
NEXT....DRKEGEL AND KRISHJ39....SORRY IF THE CAPS BOTHER YOU, I DIDNT WRITE IN CAPS TO PURPOSELY OFFEND YOU IN ANY WAY AND NOTHING IS MEANT BY IT.....LIGHTEN UP !!! RELAX
JFERRIER....THANKS FOR THE REPLY....I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE KEEPS A LOW LEVEL OF COPPER IN THEIR F/O TANKS...
I HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF ....SOME SAY ITS OVERKILL BUT I
RATHER HAVE MORE THAN LESS AS FAR AS WET/DRY FILTRATION AND PROTEIN SKIMMER ETC....
JUST WONDERING IF IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO RUN A LOW LEVEL OF COPPER OR NOT....GUESS I WONT BE DOING IT....
THANKS MUCH FOR YOUR ADVISE...
BEST REGARDS....
MARINEROCK

 

[kev]

Yea theres no reason to keep copper in the main tank, why not just use a QT tank instead?

 

[turbo21]

MarineRock
you helped us out the other day when we lost our french i dont know if you read the latest post but it wasnt from the copper it was from her not eating
i did put the carbon back in and the ick is getting really bad again now we have black ick too
Any way i think the copper works good and i may have to try it again until i get my new order of medicine in to try
look at it this way if the ick is really bad and you tried everything else then i see no wrong with using it

 

[marinerock]

KEV....
THATS WHAT I THINK IM GONNA BE DOING SOON.....
A QT...THATS PROBABLY THE BEST IDEA....WHAT SIZE QT TANK?
WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND TO BE PUT IN THE QT ?
LOW LEVEL COPPER ?
HYPOSALINITY ?
ANY MEDS OR JUST PLAY IT BY EAR ?
THANKS...
REGARDS....
MARINEROCK

 

[marinerock]

TURBO....
I HOPE I HELPED YOU OUT....I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE
COPPER TREATMENT....
IF YOU USE COPPER....TRY "MARDEL COPPER SAFE"...IT IS
ONLY SUPPOSE TO LAST 30 DAYS IN YOUR TANK....IT IS CHELATED COPPER, WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO BE SAFER.....ALSO,
I DID A HYPOSALINITY TO 1.015 AND I STILL HAVE NOT RAISED
IT BACK UP YET....I THINK I WILL LEAVE IT THERE TILL WE
ARE FINISHED ADDING FISH TO THE TANK...THE FISH LOOK GREAT
IN THE LOWER SALINITY ANYWAY....LESS STRESS ON THEM....
THEY DONT HAVE TO FIGHT OFF THE HIGHER SALINITY.....
ALSO...IF I RECALL CORRECTLY...YOU HAVE A 125 LIKE MYSELF...
MARDEL COPPER SAFE COMES IN I BELEIVE 2 SIZES....
JUST GET THE ONE FOR 100 GALS...THAT IS SUFFICIENT...ABOUT
$5.OO.........
IF YOU NEED MORE INFO...JUST LET ME KNOW...
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK

 

[marinerock]

TURBO...
ALSO, TAKE THE CARBON OUT WHEN TREATING WITH THE COPPER...AND GET A COPPER(CHELATED)TEST KIT..."KORDON AQUATRU CHELATED COPPER TEST KIT"...THIS IS THE ONLY CHELATED COPPER TEST KIT AVAILABLE, I THINK....
I JUST SAW THE BOTTOM OF YOUR POST...YOU DO HAVE A 125...
REGARDS..
MARINEROCK

 

[peasly1]

IMO....you should never put copper in a tank unless its a qt. you should find out why the fish are getting ich..or whatever the problem is, and try to take care of it that way..like bad water quaility,overstocked,fish not compatable,ect...if you have lr or ls and added copper,you probably killed all the values of both,maybe forever....

 

[drkegel]

I guess I should have known better than to even suggest etiquette. I guess we should all just be rude and YELL AT EACH OTHER.
Sorry - but I'm a big fan of respecting other people, and one way to do that is to follow acceptable etiquette. I'm a big fan of etiquette in general, no matter where I am or who I'm with.

 

[simm]

I never maintain a safe level. I think adding it on a routine basis could be bad for the fish. However I do hypo for sick fish in a qt and when I think hypo is not working after so long like a month then ill throw copper in the qt tank. I use it as a last resort.

 

[marinerock]

DRKEGEL.....
FIRST OF ALL....IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY THE CAPITAL LETTERS LOOK.....DONT READ MY POSTS....
SECOND.....AS YOUR LOCATION STATES:93 MILES FROM THE SUN..
MAYBE YOU SHOULD MOVE FURTHER AWAY AS IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS BOTHERS YOU....APPARENTLY SOMETHING IS GETTING FRIED
BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE SUN...!!!
NEXT....MAYBE A GOOD VACATION WOULD DO YOU GOOD....
ALSO, YOU NEVER RECOMMENDED ETIQUETTE...MUST BE THAT SUN THING GOING ON AGAIN.....
LIGHTEN UP !!! RELAX....
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK

 

[iechy]

STOP NOW BEFORE I HAVE TO SEPERATE YOU ALL
Or before you know it someone will ask if they can put a tang in their 55 and we'll all be at each other's throats.

 

[turbo21]

peasly read my post in disease and treatment it sayd emergency french angel and you will understand what me and marine rock are talking about a little better it should be on page 3 or 4
thank you marine rock
i dont know if you tried this with your ick but i found out that it works really well it is called metronnidazole i just hate using it because you dont get much and it goes really fast in a 125
when we got ick in our reef one time i used it and it got rid of everything but i only used a little bit of it in our 125 because it cost alot but i went ahead and ordered 5 of them

 

[peasly1]

you are talking about putting copper in a 125 or any show tank for that matter,...IMO... is wrong..all fish should be treated in qt and you should find the source of the problem,not just try to fix it...

 

[gregzbobo]

There is no safe level of copper to MAINTAIN in ANY tank in my opinion, the stuff like sammy says is a poison, and is present naturally on the reefs in parts per BILLION, hence, nearly non-existant. If fish were MEANT to live in water loaded with copper, they would do so. Please don't use copper except in a QT tank to treat Ich, and even then, hyposalinity and garlic is easier on the fish than coppering the water.
And a little etiqette never hurt anyone. Reading all caps just hurts the eyes in my opinion, and because of the caps, we can't HELP but notice your posts. Use caps for emphasis if you want, but not for the whole post.
Just my .02.