Having a big problem with things dyeing

newbietanker

New Member
Yea im thinking of going fresh water... I had a all fish tank and worked perfect until my girfirned messed it up and then tryed to convert it to a coral/fish tank... Fresh water seems alot easyier... But thanks for the help anyways.. I wish there was a good site like this for fresh water tanks but there isnt that I can find :( im gonna miss this site.. I did learn alot about fish and stuff but its just getting too expensive to keep changing the salt water stuff around and so on...
 

dburr

Active Member
newbietanker:So then I was really board and tested my water from my sink and it showed up as copper...
I also got 120lbs. of live rock I put in along time ago.
Did this rock go in before you new about the tap water? If so their is your problem. You will never get rid of you copper in those rocks! :( My .02, if you want a reef.
Ditch the rock and sand and even the tank. Start over. Copper will penatrate anything and everything.
I hope it's not the case, it is EXSPENSIVE.
good luck.
dburr
BTW: Jonnysalt : You are elected as the board spellchecker! :D :D :D ;)
 

artskoi

Member
Why are you going back to Fresh Water.I thought your Saltwater fish were doing fine.Can you just have a FO tank with LR.
 

kris walker

Active Member
Originally posted by landmeier:
<STRONG>Even if your tests are showing up 0 copper, there is still some copper left in the silicon(SP?) seals of the tank. That is if it is a glass tank. There will always be copper in your tank and the only way to get rid of it is to get a new tank. Washing, scrubing, carbon, and your magic cure that "gets rid of everything bad" isn't going to work. You should never add copper to a tank you want to put coral or inverts into. You should have a small quarintine tank for copper treatments. This tank is doomed. You will only be able to have fish in it.</STRONG>
There's always one to dispute :D
I have only had my saltwater tank for about 3 months, but as everyone knows, the learning curve is steep for a "newbietanker", especially one who likes to experiment and read. I originally had about 5 fish in a 30gal fishonly tank. They all got sick--classic toxic tank syndrome (I was also impatient at the time). I ended up treating the tank with copper among other things.
I don't have fish anymore, but I do have a scarlet reef hermit, emerald, snail, and cleaner shrimp. They are all doing fine--in the same tank. Of course, this is after 100% water changes and the addition of liverock. The only thing that was a carryover from the copper days was the tank and the gravel (both of which I rinsed thoroughly with hot water). My point is once you copperized your tank, it is not doomed (at least with respect to crabs, shrimp, and snails). Although Landmeier's statement sounds intuitive, from a practical point of view, I think it's an overstatement. But that's only my 2 cents.
sam
 

kris walker

Active Member
Originally posted by landmeier:
<STRONG>Even if your tests are showing up 0 copper, there is still some copper left in the silicon(SP?) seals of the tank. That is if it is a glass tank. There will always be copper in your tank and the only way to get rid of it is to get a new tank. Washing, scrubing, carbon, and your magic cure that "gets rid of everything bad" isn't going to work. You should never add copper to a tank you want to put coral or inverts into. You should have a small quarintine tank for copper treatments. This tank is doomed. You will only be able to have fish in it.</STRONG>
There's always one to dispute :D
I have only had my saltwater tank for about 3 months, but as everyone knows, the learning curve is steep for a "newbietanker", especially one who likes to experiment and read. I originally had about 5 fish in a 30gal fishonly tank. They all got sick--classic toxic tank syndrome (I was also impatient at the time). I ended up treating the tank with copper among other things.
I don't have fish anymore, but I do have a scarlet reef hermit, emerald, snail, and cleaner shrimp. They are all doing fine--in the same tank. Of course, this is after 100% water changes and the addition of liverock. The only thing that was a carryover from the copper days was the tank and the gravel (both of which I rinsed thoroughly with hot water). My point is once you copperized your tank, it is not doomed (at least with respect to crabs, shrimp, and snails). Although Landmeier's statement sounds intuitive, from a practical point of view, I think it's an overstatement. But that's only my 2 cents.
sam
 
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