healthcare protesters bashed by dems

reefraff

reefraff

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So far the Service Employees union has been the most organized at the events. 5 of them got arrested at one for roughing up someone who dared oppose the Obama.
 
zman1

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Where else would republican voters go. No republican politicians are holding town halls, are they? Plenty of whining to the media and appearing with commentators. They must be affraid.
 
bulldog123

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3110420
Where else would republican voters go. No republican politicians are holding town halls, are they? Plenty of whining to the media and appearing with commentators. They must be affraid.
The should be(Reps)
They suck as much as Dems
 
mantisman51

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I am sickened by the bully tactics being employed by the unions and their Democratics
lap dogs. I am, however, starting to move toward the pro-healthcare reform side. I got turned down for coverage by a 3rd health insurance company last week. But, as has been said, all of us who want health insurance can get health insurance-right? I guess I'm just lazy and want the tax-payers to support me. No, better yet: This is America, I deserve to live in agonizing pain the rest of my life, unless I hit the lottery.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3110420
Where else would republican voters go. No republican politicians are holding town halls, are they? Plenty of whining to the media and appearing with commentators. They must be affraid.
I've seen clips of a few Republican town halls. I think overall on like 32% of members of congress are holding the events
 
tank a holic

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I think its sad that the Dem's "want people to come out" but when they do and its against them they criticize the people and call it an organized rebellion?
if was fine though when people who've never voted before were picked up by dems and told to vote Obama
not to mention the people in Ohio that were dead for ten years that showed up to vote %%
fishy?? naaaaaa socialism !
 
squidward

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I just laugh at all the misinformed and clueless idiots that bash healthcare reform.
Especially that idiot lady who went on Hardball couple days ago....she was 10X dumber than palin lmao!
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/3111279
I just laugh at all the misinformed and clueless idiots that bash healthcare reform.
Especially that idiot lady who went on Hardball couple days ago....she was 10X dumber than palin lmao!
If she was only 10X dumber than Palin that only left her twice as smart as Chris Matthews
 
zman1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3120854
Neighbors are being forced to provide health care assistance already

He is not indicating Taxes, nice try though
Wonder how many neighbors personally took on that responsibility after the meeting
- It was a GOP meeting, I got mine, you get yours. No compassion for your fellow man...

You must have missed the part on insurance not covering care - That's part of the insurance company death panels we have had forever - where is the outrage...
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3120865
He is not indicating Taxes, nice try though
Wonder how may neighbors personally took on that responsibility after the meeting
- It was a GOP meeting, I got mine, you get yours. No compassion for your fellow man...

You must have missed the part on insurance not covering care - That's part of the insurance company death panels we have had forever - where is the outrage...
My pop up blocker wont let me see that video for some reason so I didn't even see it. I am just saying we are already being forced to take care of others. If I am being forced to buy a toyota for the neighbor now Obama and the Democrats want me to buy them a Lexus next time.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3120897
I know, I currently pay SSI and medicare...
Thanks for paying my health care and monthly check

I am one of the few baby boomers who will get my money's worth out of SSI.
One thing the REALLY bugs me right now is the wringing of hands over SS recipients not getting a cost of living increase this year. HELLO!!! If the cost of living goes down why should we get an increase? As it is the benis can't go down so it is really a decent situation for us. But unfortunately the politicians are talking about giving us a raise anyway. Yep, lets heap more debt on a system that is already going broke
 
zman1

zman1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3121047
Thanks for paying my health care and monthly check

I'm not sure how to take this hypocrisy. Is this the GOP, I got mine, you get yours doctrine.
Add up the dollars you and your employer put in, divide that by your gross SSI monthy payment, then sutract months you been drawing since disabiliy. Then when you run out of money the system has of yours in the future - Standup and refuse the welfare beyond that..
I'll even give the future cola increase free. My bet it will expire your money, in much less than a total of 10 years disability. GOP folks would call those people free loaders that stayed beyond that.
I don't believe in that and feel for you, but if you have such strong convictions that the government isn't resposible to take care of YOU. No one makes you draw SSI and Medicare...
REFUSE to take the monthly check after YOUR money runs out. Screw medicare, move to your wife's insurance - you perhaps have a preexisting conditon. Don't worry about welfare handouts and them wanting to charge you more to come back, you don't need the government to support you.
I just don't get it - Someone that despises the government - and is reliant on the government. Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I don't get it.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3121362
I'm not sure how to take this hypocrisy. Is this the GOP, I got mine, you get yours doctrine.
Add up the dollars you and your employer put in, divide that by your gross SSI monthy payment, then sutract months you been drawing since disabiliy. Then when you run out of money the system has of yours in the future - Standup and refuse the welfare beyond that..
I'll even give the future cola increase free. My bet it will expire your money, in much less than a total of 10 years disability. GOP folks would call those people free loaders that stayed beyond that.
I don't believe in that and feel for you, but if you have such strong convictions that the government isn't resposible to take care of YOU. No one makes you draw SSI and Medicare...
REFUSE to take the monthly check after YOUR money runs out. Screw medicare, move to your wife's insurance - you perhaps have a preexisting conditon. Don't worry about welfare handouts and them wanting to charge you more to come back, you don't need the government to support you.
I just don't get it - Someone that despises the government - and is reliant on the government. Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I don't get it.
No hypocrisy
I take it because from the time I took my first job the money to pay for it was forcibly taken out of my paycheck. If your car gets stolen or your house burned down would you take the money from your insurance company? You probably haven't paid enough premiums over your life time to cover the cost to replace a fairly decent car, let alone a house.
See the thing is I saw the value of investing and saving for the future at a fairly early age. Had I worked to retirement age I would had to have lived into my 80's just to break even. The return on your "investment" in Social Security is pretty dismal. Taking even 10% of your income and placing it in a money market account every year will get you better returns.
I have already got back every penny I paid into the social security system. now I am working on the wife's
That is the insurance aspect of it. If I wasn't in the Social Security system I would have had disability insurance. As long as I was forced to participate in this system I will take every last dime I am entitled to from it. That doesn't mean I think the system is good. I am just playing the cards I was dealt.
 
zman1

zman1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3121727
No hypocrisy
As long as I was forced to participate in this system I will take every last dime I am entitled to from it. That doesn't mean I think the system is good. I am just playing the cards I was dealt.
I understand it's "entitled" - IF GOVERNMENT says I can have it - I am taking it, even if it's more that I paid into it. Don't worry, my mother died at 56 and brother-in-law died at 48, you can have their unclaimed SSI.
Why do you not want others to take money from government welfare. They say you can have it, entilted to it. Why welfare reform then? I got mine, you can't have yours. I currently am a taxpayer...
I understand your line about being a taker - (some are givers)
"I will take every last dime I am entitled to from it." I understand the evil government, they owe you.
I have capped SSI many times over the years and have had the 7.5 percent stop being withheld from my paychecks, during the same time being bumped into a higher tax bracket. Net result, I got to keep more of my money, even in a higher tax bracket. Must be the best kept secret...
My point, if I were to become disabled based on the SSI statement , in about 8 years, I would run out of money I put into it. I have withholdings since I was 16. Self-employed works out to about 12% since you get to deduct 1/2 on the frontside of fedtax return.
However, I don't have the strong convictions that the government shouldn't help the disadvantaged.
Maybe my convictions will changes, if I become disadvantaged. I may then be against the government helping other people and universal health care. But then again, that wouldn't make... sense, would it?
 
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