Heater question please help

chris577

New Member
Hello,
I have a 150 gallon tank that is 4 feet by 2 feet. My question is should I get two heaters and place inside the tank on each end or buy one of the really expensive 700 or 800 watt ones and have only one. Or should I just buy one heater and place it in the sump (will that keep all the other water the same temp?) Thanks in advance. Also if it matters it will be a FOWLR
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Chris577
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Hello,
I have a 150 gallon tank that is 4 feet by 2 feet. My question is should I get two heaters and place inside the tank on each end or buy one of the really expensive 700 or 800 watt ones and have only one. Or should I just buy one heater and place it in the sump (will that keep all the other water the same temp?) Thanks in advance. Also if it matters it will be a FOWLR

I use two heaters, one on each side...if one should malfunction I still have a working one. The marine books advise to use two heaters for that purpose. One big heater will work just as well, but has no back up. Don't worry about the sump....I don't know anyone personally that heats a sump.
 

scsinet

Active Member
I think the OP is talking about whether the concept of placing the heaters in the sump is effective...
The answer is yes... one of the big advantages of sumps is that you can hide equipment in them, heaters will function just fine in the sump provided you have enough flow through it. I've never actually seen a sump that didn't have enough flow to handle the heaters... most people put more than enough flow through them for that.
I've always put heaters in the sump, never had a problem doing that. I agree with the multi-heater philosophy... it's beneficial on multiple fronts... everything flower said, plus, keep in mind that heaters can fail in multiple ways. From a non-catastrophic failure perspective, they can fail either off or on... if a heater fails off, having two heaters slows the fall in temperature and buys you time to take action. If a single large heater fails on, however, it's a far worse situation because it can quickly cook a tank. Therefore two heaters help here as well, as a single heater "on" failure is less likely to heat the tank fast enough that you wouldn't have time to notice.
As far as sizing goes... you're in pretty good shape. Generally I like to go by 5 watts per gallon, going with a little more or less depending on your climate. Also, remember to go by your total system volume, not just what's in the main tank, and to consider that the plumbing and such associated with sumps adds to temperature loss, so if you have lots of plumbing and equipment, upsize a bit more to compensate. If it were me, I'd use (3) 250w heaters on this tank.
 

chrisnif

Member
I agree with the above poster. I have a 5 gallon tank and a 2 gallon sump and I have 2x 25w heaters. I have one set at the preferred tank temp, and one set 1 degree lower that way if it gets chilly they both run, but if its just temp maintenance only one works. Best of all if i see the lower one running and the high one not i know something isnt right :)
 

meowzer

Moderator
I also agree with the sump placement.....I have a 225G and I have both heaters in the sump
OHHHHH...I think 2 heaters is a good idea too....:)
 

chris577

New Member
Thanks for everyones help. I think I will put my heaters in my sump just to hide them. If I have a sump/ref. does it matter what section I put them in?
 
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