Hello to my new friends!

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huskychasrs

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We've just started our journey into the salt arena and it seems like I've learned at an exponential rate these last couple of days.
What were doing is a small hobbyist tank (47G vertical) to cut our teeth on and if all goes well, hopefully we can move up to a larger tank.
I set up the tank today and still waiting for it to clear...hopefully by morning it will be!

I'd love to hear your start-up options! I plan on getting 6-8 damsels, after the water is right of course, and adding LR at the two week mark.
 

sly

Active Member
For the record, keeping a large tank is easier than keeping a small one. Small tanks need more maintenance usually and the water parameters can change very quickly and endanger the fish.
If you just set up the tank, you would be good to go ahead and get your LR right now before you get the fish. LR has to cure in the tank before it is safe for fish. Curing is a process by which you give the LR time to adjust to your tank. Many things will die on the LR and will contaminate your tank. When the LR has finished this dieoff process (perfectly natural), the LR is considered cured. During curing you will have high ammonia levels in the tank. This is very bad for fish and is why you should put off getting fish for a little while.
Give your tank about a month to cycle fully and do a water change at the end before you add any fish so that you can reduce the nitrate levels down to lower than 20ppm.
Go slow with the fish. Many people start with damsels but find that they are agressive and are extremely hard to get out of the tank if you ever need to. They can bully other fish and kill each other. In my experience, green chromis are the most peaceful while yellow tail damsels are the son of satan.
What kind of filter system do you have on your tank? Do you have a skimmer? Do you use filtered water?
Like I said, when you add fish, go slow. Add maybe one at a time and give the tank a week or more to adjust. An immature tank has a hard time adjusting to the increased bioload of additional fish. If you try to add too many at a time, they will release more waste than your young filter system can handle. At that point you run the risk of killing what you just put in and the fish that were already in there. So go slow... this can't be stressed enough. You want saltwater to be enjoyable... so think of your tank as a garden. It will not grow overnight and the more you mess with it, the more you stunt its growth.
 
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huskychasrs

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Thanks for the post.
I'm using the biowheel 280 for the filter, no skimmer yet, no on the filered water I added the de-chlor liquid.
 

saltn00b

Active Member
welcome to the boards.
biowheels are really for FW, and do minimal good in SW tanks. you should look into a sump or sump / refugium. it will increase your overall volume and make your life easier on many other aspects as well. you will need a good deal of flow to keep a happy SW tank, so you will need to invest in Power Heads, and also the return pump from a sump will help in this.
 

symon

Member
Since you just started Now is the time for the LR, let it all cycle together, you can also mix in some base rock and allow it to be seeded by the LR, this will make things come together nicely!
 

saltn00b

Active Member
oh and if you are using tap water with dechlorinater , save yourself a big headache and switch to RO / DI asap.
 

craig7220

Member
Yep patience is the key to successful saltwater tanks. Get a good test kit so that you can track the cycle time of ammonia, to nitrites to nitrates. Like Symon stated, now is the time to get some live rock and maybe some live sand, place in tank and sit back. You might reconsider the damsels.. They are hardy fish but can be trouble later on. They are extremely territorial. In the ocean, damsels have been known to attempt to chase divers from their little part of the reef. Plus once in the tank, its almost impossible to catch them without taking out all your aquascape. Welcome to the hobby.. you'll find it very rewarding if you don't rush into it.
 
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huskychasrs

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Still cloudy but the sg is at 1.021 temp 77.5-78 F.
From looking through other tank start ups...not well rinsed substrate coupled with salt mixed in-tank seem to be a common culprit (BTW I'm using Live Ocean).
I've added a powerhead 145 GPH today to help with mixing things up.
I'm going to wait until Saturday to drain some water off and get some LR. I'm thinkin no more than 5 lbs to start with 5 lbs dead. Does this sound reasonable?
Thanks in advance!
 

hot883

Active Member
5 lbs. will not really do you any good. You will need 1.5-2 lbs per gallon of live rock so.....70 -100 lbs of live rock. Order it from this site, shipped in and it will cycle the tank for you.
Pass on the damsels. They are cheap, but they get mean and once you put them in the tank they are awful to catch and will get VERY nasty.
 

joncat24

Active Member
Originally Posted by hot883
5 lbs. will not really do you any good. You will need 1.5-2 lbs per gallon of live rock so.....70 -100 lbs of live rock. Order it from this site, shipped in and it will cycle the tank for you.
Pass on the damsels. They are cheap, but they get mean and once you put them in the tank they are awful to catch and will get VERY nasty.

Yeah....what he just said!!!!
 

barchtruong

Member
change your powerhead to stronger one.
I have 55 g tank and I use 2 powerhead 300gph each on top of the 750gph combined filters.
And, don't cut corners on Damsels, it's not worth it.
 
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