(HELP)Barrcuda pump enough??
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scsinet
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Originally Posted by ameno
only problem is with a 2" feed line to the sump he's probably not going to get much better then what the dart is running. and would then have to valve a bigger pump down to get back to the 1600 to 2000 gph the supply is providing.
I agree the sequence pumps are not good for head, this pump would work much better if it were a closed loop.
Well then I'd just be content with what is already there and add powerheads for additional flow. I hate to suggest that, but it sounds like the tank is already full so it's too late to drill it.
Another suggestion might be to add a submersible like a Mag18 that he can hide behind the rocks in the tank and run a loop that way.
only problem is with a 2" feed line to the sump he's probably not going to get much better then what the dart is running. and would then have to valve a bigger pump down to get back to the 1600 to 2000 gph the supply is providing.
I agree the sequence pumps are not good for head, this pump would work much better if it were a closed loop.
Well then I'd just be content with what is already there and add powerheads for additional flow. I hate to suggest that, but it sounds like the tank is already full so it's too late to drill it.
Another suggestion might be to add a submersible like a Mag18 that he can hide behind the rocks in the tank and run a loop that way.
acrylic51
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Yeah the Dart is really weak with any type of head IMO....I'm a big Sequence fan as well....great for CL....I ran the Dart with My 8way OM, and thought it sucked on recommendations......really terrible there.....
The problem you might encounter going to a bigger (Barracuda) pump is actually to much flow through the sump and pushing bubbles all over the place.......What size overflow and drain lines to the sump?
The problem you might encounter going to a bigger (Barracuda) pump is actually to much flow through the sump and pushing bubbles all over the place.......What size overflow and drain lines to the sump?
ameno
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I agree if the tank is already full then you would not want to drill for a CL. Powerheads would be the easy fix, but then your not getting much out of all these nozzles that were added to the tank. The mag inside the tank might be a good way to go, or you could run the supply over the top, not as good as drilling and you would have to be sure and prime the pump but that could work also. I think I understood this right, the tank only has one 2" bulkhead for the supply?
I used a snapper on my OM super squirt and it really pulled the gph down. I'm looking at changing it out somethime for something with more head pressure.
I used a snapper on my OM super squirt and it really pulled the gph down. I'm looking at changing it out somethime for something with more head pressure.
ameno
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Originally Posted by acrylic51
The Dart recommendation came directly from OceansMotions......I'm going to swap the HammerHead over in it's place.....
Probably make a big difference, I didn't realize how much the OM would drag these pumps down, until I plumbed it in. The squirt is rated for 2400 GPH. that's why I went with a snapper. But one of the guys in are club just set one up with a dart, If it works good I may try that, just didn't know what would happen running thru the OM at a much higher volume then it's rated for.
Sorry Tacoma38 not meaning to highjack your thread.
The Dart recommendation came directly from OceansMotions......I'm going to swap the HammerHead over in it's place.....
Probably make a big difference, I didn't realize how much the OM would drag these pumps down, until I plumbed it in. The squirt is rated for 2400 GPH. that's why I went with a snapper. But one of the guys in are club just set one up with a dart, If it works good I may try that, just didn't know what would happen running thru the OM at a much higher volume then it's rated for.
Sorry Tacoma38 not meaning to highjack your thread.
tacoma38
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Well i didnt tel you all,I only have fresh water in the tank.Wanted to set it up,and make sure all the kinks worked out.before I put it on carpet.
Now I need to know more about the the closed loop. Do i have to put it on a pump or can it just drain back to the tank.I can still DRILL and do this loop.If you think i need to.This is going to be a reef tank
Now I need to know more about the the closed loop. Do i have to put it on a pump or can it just drain back to the tank.I can still DRILL and do this loop.If you think i need to.This is going to be a reef tank
ameno
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In that case I would drill for a 2" bulkhead and plumb the barracude into that for a closed loop. if you still have the dart leave it in the sump. use the barracuda to feed the six nozzles, that would give you some really go flow.
also I would seriously look into going ahead and setting up a fuge either part of the existing sump or an add on with the sump. IMO a fuge is one of the most important parts of the system, up there with lights and flow.
also I would seriously look into going ahead and setting up a fuge either part of the existing sump or an add on with the sump. IMO a fuge is one of the most important parts of the system, up there with lights and flow.
acrylic51
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Originally Posted by ameno
Probably make a big difference, I didn't realize how much the OM would drag these pumps down, until I plumbed it in. The squirt is rated for 2400 GPH. that's why I went with a snapper. But one of the guys in are club just set one up with a dart, If it works good I may try that, just didn't know what would happen running thru the OM at a much higher volume then it's rated for.
Sorry Tacoma38 not meaning to highjack your thread.
Yeah sorry!!!!! The OM do put alot of pressure on them.....some people have tried running penducators off the lines from the OM as well, with the same affect.....The Squirt should be fine with the Dart......I have the literature here somewhere, but it has the max flows each can handle.......I do know the 4ways and 8ways can handle the HammerHeads though.......I thought the squirt was a little higher than 2400gph?????
Probably make a big difference, I didn't realize how much the OM would drag these pumps down, until I plumbed it in. The squirt is rated for 2400 GPH. that's why I went with a snapper. But one of the guys in are club just set one up with a dart, If it works good I may try that, just didn't know what would happen running thru the OM at a much higher volume then it's rated for.
Sorry Tacoma38 not meaning to highjack your thread.
Yeah sorry!!!!! The OM do put alot of pressure on them.....some people have tried running penducators off the lines from the OM as well, with the same affect.....The Squirt should be fine with the Dart......I have the literature here somewhere, but it has the max flows each can handle.......I do know the 4ways and 8ways can handle the HammerHeads though.......I thought the squirt was a little higher than 2400gph?????
ameno
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no they claim up to 2500 gph for the super squirt 4-way, but I'm not sure what happens when you go over that, I'm thinking nothing except maybe some leak over to the closed outlets. OM says up to 7500 gph for the normal 4-way, don't sure on an 8-way but I would think it would be pretty much unlimited. I probably should have spent the extra cash and got the regular 4-way, but I thought I would have plenty of flow with that. So now I'm having to run power heads with the CL to get the flow rate to around 30x.
