Help, girlfriend is about to kill me!

florida joe

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my two cents
i am assuming the bag was closed. your tank parameters have noting to do with it. could have been oxygen deprivation. more likely ammonia toxicity. From this damsels urine or fecal matter in the small amount of water in the bag
 

penpen

Member
The lights where on the bed with me working on them (I found the legs as I almost threw away). He was floating on the top of the tank. I did notice that the water in the bag was slightly yellow, ammonia levels in the tank are fine as well. I have an over the back filter running, I do have a sump under the tank but due to leaking, I am not using it because I am trying to seal it. I guess I will let the tank filter for a bit and try again in a few days possibly next weekend.
 

deejeff442

Active Member
who hates damsels?

i love mine had him for a long time maybe 8 yrs.he dont bother anything.
if you cant find the fish he might still be in there mine hides so good i sometime cant even find him with a flashlight then a day or so later hes out .
i agree with joe if the water was colored ammonia was probably the case.
once they get poisoned its tough to recover.
but it takes alot to kill a damsel they can almost live in the toilet.
like everyone said this aint like freshwater to be successful at this hobbie you need alot of patience.at this point i would not bother looking for the fish if he is dead the crabs will take care of him and this will also kick off the cycle.
let the tank go for a few weeks checking water level along the way.
 

florida joe

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Originally Posted by penpen
http:///forum/post/3233189
The lights where on the bed with me working on them (I found the legs as I almost threw away). He was floating on the top of the tank. I did notice that the water in the bag was slightly yellow, ammonia levels in the tank are fine as well. I have an over the back filter running, I do have a sump under the tank but due to leaking, I am not using it because I am trying to seal it. I guess I will let the tank filter for a bit and try again in a few days possibly next weekend.
was the bag open or closed ?
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by deejeff442
http:///forum/post/3233238
who hates damsels?

i love mine had him for a long time maybe 8 yrs.he dont bother anything.
if you cant find the fish he might still be in there mine hides so good i sometime cant even find him with a flashlight then a day or so later hes out .
i agree with joe if the water was colored ammonia was probably the case.
once they get poisoned its tough to recover.
but it takes alot to kill a damsel they can almost live in the toilet.
like everyone said this aint like freshwater to be successful at this hobbie you need alot of patience.at this point i would not bother looking for the fish if he is dead the crabs will take care of him and this will also kick off the cycle.
let the tank go for a few weeks checking water level along the way.
I like how we told him that he didn't want a damsel. Who are we to tell him what he does and does not want?
When fish are stressed, they hide. I'm not trying to give you false hope by any means, just stating a fact. Try really hard to find the body. Unless you have a lot of hermits, it is going to take them a while to pick apart a fish, so keep looking.
It sounds like this fish's death had nothing to do with his tank/water parameters.
I would like to point out that in order to be successful at freshwater, you need a lot of patience as well. Granted, saltwater does take more. I'm not arguing, I understand what you mean and everything is relative.
On topic, it doesn't matter if your tank has perfect conditions for fish. What's more important is that your tank has perfect consistency in water parameters. I will third or fourth the notion that you wait it out another week before buying a new fish.
One last thing. I would like to use this thread for a quick biology lesson. The nitrogenous bacteria in your tank lives on the surfaces; it does not thrive in the water column itself. If it lived in the water column itself, then that fish would not have died from ammonia poisoning.
Okay...I think that's it.
 

socalnano24

Active Member
Not sure whats goin on with your tank cycle. If you have the patience just wait 2 or 3 weeks before adding any fish, especially if its your tank isn't up and running completely yet.
I agree w/ Pez about the drip acclimation. If you don't do drip acclimation (which is really quite simple and only needs an air hose and a container), at the least open the bag, secure it at the top, and add a half shot glass of tank water to the bag every 10 or 15 minutes until at least half of the water in the bag is tank water. This will help him adjust to a change in salinity and pH. Then use a net or empty the water from the bag before dropping the fish in the tank, so the bag water doesn't go in you system
 

skate020

Member
if the lights werent on then maybe the fish was just a goner from the moment it went iin the bag? fish shops dont have the time to look after fish individually so they generally get into bad shape if there too long
 

shwstpr88

Member
If I saw a damsel walking down the street I would go out of my way to shoot in the face!!!!!

Yes we are telling him to HATE HATE HATE! damsels they are like mosquitos good for nothing but hell fire and brimstone!
so what were we talking about?
 
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