HELP!!!! High nitrites

tvukan

Member
My ammonia is .25 on the border line to 0 and my nitrates are at 0. I just did a 25 gallon water change. Should I slow down my feeding will this lower the nitrites? What else can I do to get them down? It's weird because all my levels were great until I bought some rock off Craigslist and now my tank has green algae everywhere. Could this have caused my nitrites to spike?? I'm stumped. I have 3 puffers a huge yellow clown a bamboo shark a pacaso trigger and a Zebra eel in my tank and I'm very worried about them. The only reason I have all these fish is because we got a steal deal on Craigslist and our LFS told us to add Smart Start and our tank would cycle and we could add fish immediately. But we waited 3 weeks to add the fish.
 

mjtech12

Member
Hi it sounds like you described that your tank hasn't cycled yet, what size tank do you have? what are the true readings of the tank ammo, PH, Nitrite Nitrate what kit are you using if its an API your getting false readings get a seachem kit , one thing you do have is hardy fish so I wouldn't worry to much but you have added a little to many fish at once though, any live rock in the tank? also I would never buy rock off of craigslist your really not saving any money if you have to repair damage, replace fish by buying someone else's problems.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by TVukan http:///t/394884/help-high-nitrites#post_3514912
My ammonia is .25 on the border line to 0 and my nitrates are at 0. I just did a 25 gallon water change. Should I slow down my feeding will this lower the nitrites? What else can I do to get them down? It's weird because all my levels were great until I bought some rock off Craigslist and now my tank has green algae everywhere. Could this have caused my nitrites to spike?? I'm stumped. I have 3 puffers a huge yellow clown a bamboo shark a pacaso trigger and a Zebra eel in my tank and I'm very worried about them. The only reason I have all these fish is because we got a steal deal on Craigslist and our LFS told us to add Smart Start and our tank would cycle and we could add fish immediately. But we waited 3 weeks to add the fish.
Hello,
You were completely lied to. You can never add anything like Smart Start and think the tank is cycled and ready for fish immediately. Constant water changes is all you can do. Even in a well cycled tank, you can't add that many fish at one time. The cheap comes out expensive.
If your fish make it through the night, and I really doubt they will unless you do a bunch of water changes to keep them alive. Give the fish to a fish store until you can cycle your tank. Ammonia and nitrites are deadly to sea life. Your tank is in the middle of a cycle, Too much was added too soon. Live rock is loaded with tiny sea critters, some of those tiny critters die in transport...add that to so many fish in an uncycled tank, and it means disaster.
The way it is supposed to be done:
Time is not the indicator that a tank is cycled. You have to be patient and do the water tests...First you get an ammonia spike, then ...WAIT...you will start seeing the ammonia drop, and get a nitrite spike, then when both drop to zero...you have nitrates. That is a complete cycle. Everything is balanced at that point, you have enough good bacteria to feed on the ammonia and nitrites that were in the tank. At that point, you can only add ONE fish, and wait a week or two allowing the tank to re-balance itself out, before you add another fish. Fish poop, and that makes ammonia... and then the good bacteria has to build up and remove the ammonia and nitrites produced by the new fish....once it does, the tank is again balanced. Then you can add another fish.
Sorry to be the one to give you bad news. As you can see from the explanation above, the nitrite spike was inevitable, feeding them less is not going to help...no way was there enough good bacteria built up in your tank, to be able handle that many fish, and uncured live rock.
 

tvukan

Member
You think doing frequent water changes will help?
MJ yes it's an API but I had my LFS test my water and she got the same nitrite level as me it's about 1.0. I have about 150lbs of rock a 125 gallon tank PH is 7.8 to 8.0 I am going to get a different name brand test kit I heard API is junk. My ammonia is .25 it's so light it's almost 0 nitrate is 0. All my rock is cured except 60 lbs. Believe me we learned a GOOD lesson buying that rock WASNT WORTH IT!!!!! Never ever again!!!!
 

mjtech12

Member
TV- flower is absolutely right follow what he said and you will be ok also just so you know LFS also use API so you would get the same reading I too have a 125 Gallon and my water is perfect all zero's but it has been established over 5 months and I have over 15 fish in mine but I waited to put all those fish in, If you have a QT Tank I would move them and slowly acclimate them back into your DT Tank good luck Bro
 

tvukan

Member
No she had another brand test for nitrites she doesn't like API she only uses the ammonia test from them. Thank u so much!!! I hope everything works out I don't want anything to happen to my fish.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by TVukan http:///t/394884/help-high-nitrites#post_3514920
You think doing frequent water changes will help?
MJ yes it's an API but I had my LFS test my water and she got the same nitrite level as me it's about 1.0. I have about 150lbs of rock a 125 gallon tank PH is 7.8 to 8.0 I am going to get a different name brand test kit I heard API is junk. My ammonia is .25 it's so light it's almost 0 nitrate is 0. All my rock is cured except 60 lbs. Believe me we learned a GOOD lesson buying that rock WASNT WORTH IT!!!!! Never ever again!!!!
The solution to pollution is dilution. Water changes during a cycle is referred to as a SOFT cycle. By doing constant water changes you remove the poison from the water and replace it with clear good water. That should prevent the fish from getting their gills burned so bad that they can't breath. Just for now
....get a stick test kit so you can see ammonia and nitrite in an instant...and at the first show of either one...do another water change. Things should be able to balance out in about two weeks. You will be on pins and needles until then. if you can move the fish to a fish store for now, would be your best bet, and make life easy on you and your fish.
The live rock is not the sole cause of your grief...it was the notion that your tank was ready for fish immediately after adding the Smart Start crap. It just took a little time for the ammonia and nitrites to develop from the over stock of fish you added. The uncured rock may have caused it to happen a few days sooner, nothing more. This crash was inevitable because you were impatient. That is the lesson to take from this experience.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by MJTech12 http:///t/394884/help-high-nitrites#post_3514932
Keep us posted but I would definitely move the fish if you can
+100!
I hope I didn't offend you, I know you didn't know better. I get so worked up over the fish store folks selling snake oil products like Smart Start, it does add some good bacteria...but you still need time to let the bacteria build up. Telling you that you could add fish immediately was just wrong of them.
Do the soft cycle, using live fish to start the cycle is the way we used to do things, so it isn't impossible for them to make it...It's just harder work. Stay on your toes with the water changes, this too shall pass.
Welcome to the forum, sorry it was under such hard circumstances.
 

tvukan

Member
Thank you so much you guys. I only did what I was told by my LFS. I've learned allot. This forum is allot of help. I will go get a better test kit tomorrow. API sucks!!!! All I'm concerned about are my fish. I don't know of a LFS store that will take my fish for me until it fully cycles. Ill just do my water changes and keep testing my water. The fish store who told me Smart Start works is going to hear my piece of mind thats for sure and then I will never ever step foot in that place again. I will keep you guys updated on the outcome.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by TVukan http:///t/394884/help-high-nitrites#post_3514946
Thank you so much you guys. I only did what I was told by my LFS. I've learned allot. This forum is allot of help. I will go get a better test kit tomorrow. API sucks!!!! All I'm concerned about are my fish. I don't know of a LFS store that will take my fish for me until it fully cycles. Ill just do my water changes and keep testing my water. The fish store who told me Smart Start works is going to hear my piece of mind thats for sure and then I will never ever step foot in that place again. I will keep you guys updated on the outcome.
Hi,
Don't cut your nose off to spite your face. The LFS will come in handy for other things besides advice. LOL...just get your advice here, and then go to the LFS for what needed things that come up later. I won't by a live fish from *****, but they have great deals on fish tanks and stands.
I use SeaChem test kits, they come with a test regent to be able to double check that the results are accurate. While you soft cycle, just use the stick tests because numbers mean nothing right now...just keep on your toes for any ammonia or nitrites to tell you to do the WC. Make sure you keep a tub of premixed saltwater on hand at all times, and churn it with a power head until you use it.
 
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