Help! Killer Cinnamon Clowns

juliedrool

New Member
How strange is this. I have had my 55 set-up since February and introduced 2 Cinnamon Clowns as my first livestock. Although they came from two different shipments, My LFS had them in a "tidepool" set-up where it appears that they became a pair. They have been lively and interesting little piglets since bringing them home. About a month later, I got a small Singapore Angel, (just beautiful), that the clowns ignored & never bothered. Being a shy fish, he tended to only feed on green algae at first. Slowly he came around, and now eats with the clowns and is friends with them. So it's been like this for a month. We took a trip down to our LFS yesterday, in hopes to complete our ecosysytem with one more fish and a cleaner shrimp. The initial fish we bought didn't work out so well (Impulse buy!!! Don't do it!!) so we took it back and got a tiny little Barnacle Blennie who happened to come with his own little house, (shell) for protection. Got home from work today, went to feed the fish and check up on the new livestock and have yet to see the Blennie, and also discovered several pieces of what is left of my Cleaner shrimp. :scared: So the question for ya'll is: :help:
Has anyone ever heard of Cinnamon Clowns not only eating cleaner shrimps, but snails as well. (I keep finding empty shells & testing 0 for ammonia) They've managed to eat 10 so far. Am I not feeding them enough? Twice a day, variety of flakes, frozen and seaweed. Do I just have an unusual pair of clowns? Or did they just dominate the tank cuz they were the first ones in? :notsure:
We really another cleaner but not if he's going to die. And the shrimp was large and very healthy. My clowns are average size. Any suggestions or confirmations would be appreciated. There's a chance the Blennie is still around hiding in a new spot, which I hope is true. However, my gut is telling me otherwise.
 

dogstar

Active Member
My Cinnamons never bother anything unless it come near the anemone.
Are you sure it shrimp is not just a molt. They do that you know.
 

moby

Member
Are you sure the cleaner shrimp is dead and those pieces are not a molted skin? Remember they shed their old skin when they grow.
I keep finding empty shells & testing 0 for ammonia)
Do you test the nitrites and nitrates? At high enough levels the nitrates will kill your snails.
The blennie could be hiding, they are very good at this. How much LR is there for him to hide in?
Moby
 

juliedrool

New Member
No, by empty shells I mean snail shells. The snails are slowly dissapearing as well. I just got the shrimp yesterday, & yes I know that shrimp molt. I'm not new to the hobby. He is definatley dead. Legs, antennas, tail, & body scattered everywhere.
I have good news about my blennie though. We found him!!! :cheer: He found a bitchin hiding spot and we just watched him eat. :joy:
My water's great. No ammonia, no trites, 10 trates, 1.024 SG, & 8.2 PH.
Man I'm telling you I think these clowns are cannabals.
Does anyone have any suggestions for an invert that would be able to arm itself, yet still get along? Or another tankmate that will get along with what we have?
 

unleashed

Active Member
are you testing your cal and alk? inverts need spacific levals of cal and alk if this is not met inverts just cant survive .most omnivores wont kill the inverts but they will eat them if they are found to be dead already.you also may not have anough algae growth in your tank to sustain all the snails you keep .your nitrates also may be a result of die off.
 

juliedrool

New Member
I did test the alk, it's fine as well. I do not have a test for cal though. Where should it be for inverts? Also, I don't have alot of snails. Had 15, now have 5. And I think the only reason they survived is because they're nassarius.
And as for my trates, they're only at 10 and I'm due for a water change. It's been 4 weeks. I know it'll go down after the change. Some people say you want to have 0 trates as well , but most find that impossible. I think 5 for trates is very reasonable, don't you.
Could it have been my singapore that murdered him. Can anyone share about a similar situation? I appreciate any input guys, thanks.
 
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