Help Me Please!!!

hooktonfsh

hooktonfsh

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What is the term bleached anemone?
I posted some pictures in the Clown/Anemone Forum and had several post stating that my anemone was VERY VERY bleached. What causes this?
When we purchased it from our lfs, the guy said that our lighting would be fine.
2 65watt 10000k FLO
2 65watt 10000k Actinics
4 Moonlights
Please help! Is there anyway to fix my anemone? He seems to be doing great. HELP!! :help:
 
happyvac

happyvac

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Bleached means that it's not receiving enough light. 260w of PC over a 75g is nowhere near enough for an anemone.
In the future, I would take the LFS advice only after asking around here.
 
hooktonfsh

hooktonfsh

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Happyvac, should I take the anemone back to the lfs? What kind of lighting would you suggest getting? Thanks for responding so quick too!
 
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sinner's girl

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would moving the anemone higher so it go more light help untill hook got better lights? (just wondering)
 
maroonytun

maroonytun

Member
Yeah it would help if you moved it closer to the lights until you got new lights.Good idea, I would've never thought of that.
 
fishguy83

fishguy83

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just throwing it out there - but are MHs really necessary for corals and especially, anenomes???
I know that high water quality is pretty much a must - but are the MHs really necessary? Rewind time 5 years or so - people weren't using MHs... they had coral tanks..
I'm not an expert, but just asking the questions nobody else is (or that I have read on here yet) - I mean, are they really necessary? I agree you need enough lighting, but can't you get by with T-5s?? I saw a nice set in my LFS ..
 
maroonytun

maroonytun

Member
Yes you could get by with T5's or Vho's, but the anemone will most likely not be thriving.
T5s and vhos aren't capable of reaching the metal halides output.
 
moby

moby

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Rewind time 5 years or so - people weren't using MHs... they had coral tanks..
Well, it is easy to say yes they HAD coral. But how well it did is debateable, especially the stoney corals. Since the wider use of MH, corals that were once thought of as not aquarium friendly are now almost common.
When I started keeping reef tanks almost twenty years ago most folks (including myself) had never heard of MH. Also the science of water chemistry was more "primitive" as well. Alot has changed and continues to change in this hobby. The advancements in the two combined IMHO are what has allowed the SUCCESSFUL ability to keep these marvelous animals.
Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound preachy. BUT too many hobbiest have the mind set that because it hasn't died in 6 months that it is being successfully kept.
Personally, I think if it won't thrive I shouldn't have it. Its the least I owe these creatures, to be a responsible "landlord"
So all that being said, are MH neccessary? Of course that depends on the requirements of what you are putting in your aquarium. Some species do quite well under VHO and the like. Others it is not suffient.
I guess the key is understand those requirements and if you cannot meet them, don't put it in your tank.
Just my .02 worth.

Moby
 
fishguy83

fishguy83

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moby - i agree with what you said...i want everything in my tank to thrive as well
I am new and was just throwing it out there to undesrtand it more -- I have a 37g column tank - bought some clowns (after about a month's cycle) FINALLY! - and of course read that they didn't need an aneneome, etc.. etc.. but of course, now, really would like to get them one. This will be a temporary tank until my g/f gets out of law school and we get a bigger place, and move, etc.. So - if I bought some decent T5's and some moonlights for my tank, and placed the coral/anenome high (of course since it is a column tank) - I would think it would be alright and as long as I housed stuff that wasn't too demanding on good lighting...and if so - is there some resource on this site or the web that breaks down what corals/anenome/etc. can be placed under which lighting, in order for it to thrive.
**and not trying to hijack thread - just further the conversation!**
 
moby

moby

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I hope no one thought I was jumping on them. Sorry if I sounded harsh.
Everone kills off their little buddies. It happens. But minimizing the deathrate with good information is critical.
Unfortunately LFS is not always the best place to get fish advice. I just joined this forum this month and have reading the post to see what the "climate" is like before posting much.
This looks like a great place to get advice but again nothing can substitue research.

IMHO if the anemone is stressed from insufficient light I would see if someone could maybe fish sit for you until you get the proper lights or maybe trade it with a friend until you can upgrade. If upgrading the lights are not an option, work out a deal with LFS for a trade, since you were trusting their advice. Remember your'e the customer(satisfaction a store concern??) and not let them con you with bogus info.
I'm not proud of it but I wish I had a dollar for every fish I killed way back in the beginning from poor advice and not doing enough research. Common mistake for a neebie, but one you can fix.

Moby
 
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toungetwster

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Let me tell ya about "keeping" corals alive. I've had the same mushrooms and various leathers for several years. I kept them under PC lighting because they are "supposed" to be low light corals. Well I then changed and added T-5's to get a little more light and various other coral. They, the corals opened more. Well; now I'm running MH and let me tell you; these "low light" corals have never looked better, more spread open standing tall! Just beautiful. My vote is yes; you need metal halides if you want to keep coral. I've seen the improvements with my own eyes.
 
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