Help me with feeding my lionfish

slackjawed

Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2545040
I'm glad you now care for your fish. In many previous threads, including several that have been deleted, you have specifically pointed out you don't care what happens to them.
I never said you can't post your opinion. Your opinion, however, will be challenged by more knowledgable hobbyists anytime you post ridiculous comments on threads such as this.
Your comments on live fish looking healthy is absurd. Can you look at a feeder fish and tell how nutrionally valuable it is going to be? Freezing prepared foods for our pets kills the majority of parasites and diseases. I've never heard of a fish contracting E. coli before. Feel free to provide a link for that... In fact, as E coli
is found on the surface of skin and tissue and humans often get it from eating under cooked meat I highly suspect eating raw fish would give you a greater risk of contracting it; that is, if it was really an issue..
You are correct in that feeding FW fish to SW fish greatly reduces any risk of parasites, or infections. What you conveniently refuse to address, however, is the issue that feeding fW fish to SW predators leads to an unhealthy fatty buildup on internal organs and leads to vitamin deficiencies. Not to mention that SW fish need a variety in their diet, something FW guppies and minnows fail to provide. According to Fenner's website, for instance, FW feeders have a type of body fat that SW predators cannot adequately digest.
I'm not "the man" by any means. I learn things every day in this hobby and on this forum. That said, it's clear on this particular topic I have chosen to educate myself on properly feeding fish. You have not. FW feeders are not good, long term choices, for SW fish. Ever.
wasnt statin that fish can get e coli just statin you have a 5$$ a hr processin your stuff and how safe is that?
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by slackjawed
http:///forum/post/2545091
wasnt statin that fish can get e coli just statin you have a 5$$ a hr processin your stuff and how safe is that?
As I pointed out, pretty safe as the food is frozen.
I'm not going to argue with you on this Slack. The only reason to feed FW feeders to a SW fish is because you want to. There is not a single reason other than that. As such, when people ask for feeding advice you need to be honest and have the integrity to explain the 1 "pro" and numerous "cons" when following your advice.
 

louti

Member
Not to highjack this thread (okay thats exactly what i intend to do
). But, I just got my radiata today, and I need to get him to eat. I haven't even tried feeding him yet, but im sure its gonna take some doing. Would ghost shrimp be the best live feeder assuming he doesnt accept the frozen krill/silversides? If I cannot get ghost shrimp, what would be the next best thing? Rosy reds maybe? On a related note, I want to use fresh garlic but I can never get much juice extracted. Any suggestions?
PS: No need to offer suggestions slackjaw. It is widely known that feeding freshwater fish to saltwater fish is like giving them big macs because fw fish are fattier. Probably not a problem on occasion, but not good long term.
PPS: I am knowledgeable in certain areas and not so much in others. Therefore, I try to only offer up advise when I know its 100% accurate. I wish others would do the same.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by louti
http:///forum/post/2545218
Not to highjack this thread (okay thats exactly what i intend to do
). But, I just got my radiata today, and I need to get him to eat. I haven't even tried feeding him yet, but im sure its gonna take some doing. Would ghost shrimp be the best live feeder assuming he doesnt accept the frozen krill/silversides? If I cannot get ghost shrimp, what would be the next best thing? Rosy reds maybe? On a related note, I want to use fresh garlic but I can never get much juice extracted. Any suggestions?
PS: No need to offer suggestions slackjaw. It is widely known that feeding freshwater fish to saltwater fish is like giving them big macs because fw fish are fattier. Probably not a problem on occasion, but not good long term.
PPS: I am knowledgeable in certain areas and not so much in others. Therefore, I try to only offer up advise when I know its 100% accurate. I wish others would do the same.
Ghost Shrimp will be fine short term. I actually have read Mollies are a bit less fatty than fish in hte carp family like Rosy Reds. So maybe Mollies if no shrimp cn be found.
A liquid garlic extract is fine if all you want to do is stimulate feeding. I've used Kent's Garlic Xtreme with great results.
 

crimzy

Active Member
I've weened lions onto frozen food using the following method:
I handfeed with something like a silverside (long and easy to grab), except that I keep my hand out of the water and just dangle the silverside below the surface. Soaking with some garlic can't hurt. It's likely that the lion won't take it the first time but will be interested. But don't worry, it can't resist for long.
 

louti

Member
Thanks. Have you used fresh garlic though? My main reason for the garlic is the possible immune system boost. I've read that extracts may not be as beneficial (assuming there's any real benefit, which depends what study you read). But, I certainly dont see any downside. I'm gonna get a garlic press, but I'm not sure how that's gonna get any more juice, because its designed to mince the garlic. If anyone has found a better method please let me know.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by louti
http:///forum/post/2545234
Thanks. Have you used fresh garlic though? My main reason for the garlic is the possible immune system boost. I've read that extracts may not be as beneficial (assuming there's any real benefit, which depends what study you read). But, I certainly dont see any downside. I'm gonna get a garlic press, but I'm not sure how that's gonna get any more juice, because its designed to mince the garlic. If anyone has found a better method please let me know.
Nope. A press is the best method. You'll get a little "oil" from each clove.
 
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rcreations

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Originally Posted by louti
http:///forum/post/2545218
Not to highjack this thread (okay thats exactly what i intend to do
). But, I just got my radiata today, and I need to get him to eat. I haven't even tried feeding him yet, but im sure its gonna take some doing. Would ghost shrimp be the best live feeder assuming he doesnt accept the frozen krill/silversides? If I cannot get ghost shrimp, what would be the next best thing? Rosy reds maybe? On a related note, I want to use fresh garlic but I can never get much juice extracted. Any suggestions?
PS: No need to offer suggestions slackjaw. It is widely known that feeding freshwater fish to saltwater fish is like giving them big macs because fw fish are fattier. Probably not a problem on occasion, but not good long term.
PPS: I am knowledgeable in certain areas and not so much in others. Therefore, I try to only offer up advise when I know its 100% accurate. I wish others would do the same.
You should start out with frozen food like krill, you may get lucky. My spotfin ate frozen food right from the beginning.
 
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rcreations

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An update... after a lot of patience on my part, little Fuzzy has finally started to accept frozen food. So far she's eating Sliversides only, but it's a start.
 

salt210

Active Member
have you tried some that were whole? my lion wouldnt touch anything that didnt have its head to its tail
 

jamirlima

Member
I am also having problem trying to feed my lionfish. He wont eat anything since i got him 4 days ago.
What is the difference between frozen and dried krill? My box/container says frozen and dried krill. It looks like dried to me not frozen. I thought frozen was something that was kept in the freezer.
Where do I get silverside maybe i should try that?
Thanks
 
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rcreations

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Yes, frozen is kept in the freezer. It's actual krill frozen in ice which you have to thaw out in a little water from the tank. What you have is freeze dried probably. Same thing except not as fresh or nutritious.
Silverside are little fish which you can buy frozen. You can find them at pretty much any LFS, wherever they keep their frozen foods.
 
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