Help My Tang And Coral Beauty Are Sick

rooney51984

New Member
I Have A 75g Tank Thats Been Running For A While. I Put A Clown, Yellow Tang, And Coral Beauty In A Few Days Ago And All Have Rapid Gill Movement. My Yellow Tang Has His Mouth Open And Staying At The Surface. My Coral Beauty Is Hiding Laying On His Side And My Clown Fish Just Has Rapid Gill Movement. My Water Quailty Is Good Ammonia And Nitrates Are Both At 0. Can I Have To Many Air Bubbles Or To Much Water Movement. Please Help!!!!!
 

sly

Active Member
How did you acclimate them?
I would reduce feedings, turn the lights off and possibly cover the tank with a towel to reduce the startle effect of you waking into the room. Give them time to adjust to the tank without any distractions so that they can have time to recover.
What are you nitrite levels? Temp? SG? pH?
 

rooney51984

New Member
How did you acclimate them?
I would reduce feedings, turn the lights off and possibly cover the tank with a towel to reduce the startle effect of you waking into the room. Give them time to adjust to the tank without any distractions so that they can have time to recover.
What are you nitrite levels? Temp? SG? pH?
When I got off work this morning the yellow tang was laying on the bottom. Nitrite are at 0 temp is 78 and pH is 8.2
 

sly

Active Member
What about the other questions?
I am betting that you did not acclimate properly. Did you just float the bag and then throw them in or did you do something else?
 
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touchthesky00

Guest
posting the same thread 3 times doesnt really help...
how did you acclimate them?
please post ALL of your levels.
are there any other fish in the tank?
that seems like a pretty large bio load to add all at once
-you are usually supposed to wait 2 weeks between adding fish
 

sly

Active Member
Originally Posted by touchthesky00
http:///forum/post/2661870
-you are usually supposed to wait 2 weeks between adding fish
Agreed but I wait even longer than that. I won't add more than one fish every month or so to my tank. I learned that lesson when I went to Hawaii and brought back 6 fish and put them all in at the same time. I acclimated and everything but they were all dead within a month.
 

errattiq

Member
What type of tests are you using? All of those fish at once is a huge dent on the bioload. If they've been in there a for a few days they would have acclimated to your tank my now. None of my fish took longer than 24 hours to be out and in the open, and I have a yellow tang, a hippo tang (notoriosuly shy at first) and numerous clowns. I'm willing to bet your takn didn't have the necessary biological filtration built up yet to support such an addition, how much live rock/ live sand do you have? Do you have a protein skimmer? Do you have a sump or some type of filter?
-Josh
 

rooney51984

New Member
I floated the bag for 2 hours
I would reduce feedings, turn the lights off and possibly cover the tank with a towel to reduce the startle effect of you waking into the room. Give them time to adjust to the tank without any distractions so that they can have time to recover.
What are you nitrite levels? Temp? SG? pH?[/QUOTE]
 

sly

Active Member
In the future, try drip acclimating. Let them drip acclimate for several hours or even overnight. Also, never put the water from the bag into your tank. It probably contains copper and copper is poisonous to just about everything except fish.
Only add one fish at a time and then give your tank a few weeks to adapt. Do this for a couple of reasons. First, as you add fish, you increase the bioload on your system. The bacteria which are responsible for your tank's filtration need time to grow to adapt to the increased bioload. This usually takes about a month for them to grow and multiply to satisfy your new bioload.
Second, fish need time to adjust to their new surroundings. They scare easily and like to know where they can go to hide. When you add several at a time, you have a bunch of stressed fish with no fish being dominant. They are all scared of the tank and of each other. They will take longer to find their roll in the tank society than if you just added one at a time. As a tank matures, each fish settles in to it's place in the tank socially. There is a sort of pecking order. When you add a new fish, he quickly learns where he fits in to the order of things and "knows" what to expect from the other inhabitants. When you add too many, the learning curve is longer because none of the other fish know where they belong either. Stressed fish will die or quickly succumb to disease.
At this point I would reduce feedings. This will slow their metabolism down some and help them resist disease better. Also, distract them as little as possible. That's why I recommend covering the tank. They have a hard enough time adjusting to your tank, they also don't need you outside gawking at them, scaring them further.
 
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touchthesky00

Guest
how long was your tank established before the adding of these fish?
 

rooney51984

New Member
Originally Posted by Sly
http:///forum/post/2661942
In the future, try drip acclimating. Let them drip acclimate for several hours or even overnight. Also, never put the water from the bag into your tank. It probably contains copper and copper is poisonous to just about everything except fish.
Only add one fish at a time and then give your tank a few weeks to adapt. Do this for a couple of reasons. First, as you add fish, you increase the bioload on your system. The bacteria which are responsible for your tank's filtration need time to grow to adapt to the increased bioload. This usually takes about a month for them to grow and multiply to satisfy your new bioload.
Second, fish need time to adjust to their new surroundings. They scare easily and like to know where they can go to hide. When you add several at a time, you have a bunch of stressed fish with no fish being dominant. They are all scared of the tank and of each other. They will take longer to find their roll in the tank society than if you just added one at a time. As a tank matures, each fish settles in to it's place in the tank socially. There is a sort of pecking order. When you add a new fish, he quickly learns where he fits in to the order of things and "knows" what to expect from the other inhabitants. When you add too many, the learning curve is longer because none of the other fish know where they belong either. Stressed fish will die or quickly succumb to disease.
At this point I would reduce feedings. This will slow their metabolism down some and help them resist disease better. Also, distract them as little as possible. That's why I recommend covering the tank. They have a hard enough time adjusting to your tank, they also don't need you outside gawking at them, scaring them further.
THANK YOU VERY MUSCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP
 

rooney51984

New Member
i have a clown in the tank. and i take my water to the lfs[
QUOTE=sepulatian;2661984]I very much agree with Sly here

Are there other fish in this tank? What are you using to test with?[/QUOTE]
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by rooney51984
http:///forum/post/2662421
i have a clown in the tank. and i take my water to the lfs[
QUOTE=sepulatian;2661984]I very much agree with Sly here

Are there other fish in this tank? What are you using to test with?

You need your own test kit. Plain and simple. Buy a master liquid test kit. API costs about $25
 
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