Help On Picking My Fish For 135g

rileybb

rileybb

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I want to get A lionfish, triggers, puffer, and an eel of some sort can i do this and if not why? and if so what type of setup will i need lots of caves, good current, etc. as you can see this is my first thread.
 
rileybb

rileybb

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why would they not mix my tank to small....the sting that they give isnt enough to pretect them from the teeth of a trigger and puffer
 
rileybb

rileybb

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i want 5 of these in my tank (volten lionfish,clown trigger, huma huma, blue throat, niger, porcipine puffer, and a eel of some sort summin nice thats not to big if possible
 
bruner54

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your tank is not to small i dont know why but its what everyone says and jus so you know clown trigger is the most aggressive trigger.
 
slackjawed

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Originally Posted by bruner54
http:///forum/post/2607417
your tank is not to small i dont know why but its what everyone says and jus so you know clown trigger is the most aggressive trigger.
undy is the most aggressive
just ask around .people say its a one fish per tank,but i have 2 of those mixxed with alot of other triggs and eels .just have plenty of hidin places and you should have very little probs i.i have had no probs w/ my fish killin each other
 
kjr_trig

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Lions and Triggers are not usually a good idea. You ask a good question about the protective spines of the Lion (hopefully SrFisher57 will see as he is more capable of answering that)....I just know is does not keep Triggers from turning Lions into chew toys. Triggers like to sample anything they think could be a meal, Lions are slow moving and thus easily sampled. Puffers and big Angels can be hard on Lions also. I would cut out the Lion and the Clown Trigger which gets too large and aggressive for a 135 long term.
Oh and please don't listen to any "advice" given by Slackjawed.
BTW Titan and Queen are the 2 most aggressive Triggers.
 
rileybb

rileybb

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ok i like the help butif you tell me not to get the clown and lion what are some very cool fish because i want the lion fish how about a bluethroat,Huma Huma,Lion fish and pork.puffer
 
aquaknight

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Those spines are for protecting itself from becoming food. I.E. something like a huge grouper swallowing them whole. Additionally, you only get stung from the end of the fin. Smaller, more nimble fish usually just nip the fins of the lion in half.
Also, I'd say an adult Volitian Lionfish is too big for a 135, they can be over 15" wide so I'd only house them in a 2' deep tank. And the porcupine puffer will definitely outgrow a 135.
IMO, the porcupine puffer will be worse on the lion then a lot of triggers...
 
prime311

prime311

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Welcome to SWF!

You could get lucky and get triggers and a puffer that will not pick on the lion, but its pretty unlikely. I like Lions too, but I'm debating not getting one for the same reason. Lions are also very messy eaters which adds quite a bit of bioload to the system. Any trigger is a risk with other fish, especially with fish that aren't triggers. The Clown and to a lesser degree Humu are considered more aggressive, but this doesn't mean you won't run into problems with a Niger. This becomes especially bad when they're placed with slower moving species like Lions. If you want an Eel then you need to make sure you're tank is sealed tight or they will crawl out of the tank. I'd look into some of the Wrasse and Angels as they make good mates in a predator tank.
 
kjr_trig

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I would respectfully disagree with my friend AquaKnight. I had a well fed Porky in a simalar sized tank for 5+ years, they really don't require a ton of swimming space, and in 5+ years mine was 7 inch long....I agree not the ideal tank size, but mine certainly "lived the good life"...At least I thought he did.
 
R

rcreations

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Lions are slow moving fish and they can not protect themselves very well from fish that bite at their fins. This includes triggers and puffers.
 
slackjawed

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2607547
Lions and Triggers are not usually a good idea. You ask a good question about the protective spines of the Lion (hopefully SrFisher57 will see as he is more capable of answering that)....I just know is does not keep Triggers from turning Lions into chew toys. Triggers like to sample anything they think could be a meal, Lions are slow moving and thus easily sampled. Puffers and big Angels can be hard on Lions also. I would cut out the Lion and the Clown Trigger which gets too large and aggressive for a 135 long term.
Oh and please don't listen to any "advice" given by Slackjawed.
BTW Titan and Queen are the 2 most aggressive Triggers.
and listen to you 135 gal "not good for a clown trigg" damm whare do u get your fish?seems like you can get smaller triggers that can grow in it.and before you respond out grown in 3 or 4 years guy seems like you r givin badd advise not 2 have a awsome fish
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by rileybb
http:///forum/post/2607601
my tank is 2feet deep 6feet long and 18inchs long
Can you clarify that? By 18" long, do you mean height? I was pretty sure a 135 is just a slightly taller version of a 125? By depth I mean the distance between the front to back as you look into the tank. If it is 24" deep, then I'd agree a lion would be okay, though issues with tankmates IMO would arise.
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2607629
I would respectfully disagree with my friend AquaKnight. I had a well fed Porky in a simalar sized tank for 5+ years, they really don't require a ton of swimming space, and in 5+ years mine was 7 inch long....I agree not the ideal tank size, but mine certainly "lived the good life"...At least I thought he did.
That is very useful information. I had always equated porky growth rate to Anthro's. Makes you wonder how old those 2 footers you see diving are....
 
el guapo

el guapo

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I would skip the lion fish . They are a good looking fish but don't belong in with triggers or puffers . Clown triggers are also a nice looking fish . But with a clown trigger you run the risk of loosing your fish . Humu Humu are a little more dosicle but not a lot . They have been known to snap and kill other fish in the tank .
Its my opinion that if you go with the humu, blue throat , and niger you would have the best results . You could go with a zebra eel or a snow flake eel . Stay away from the larger eels as they will more than likely attack your fish if not kept fed. Also avoid ribon eels . They are hard to care for and requier more experiance .
 
kjr_trig

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2607739
That is very useful information. I had always equated porky growth rate to Anthro's. Makes you wonder how old those 2 footers you see diving are....
I think the really really really big guys are Diodon Hystrix, not Diodon Holacanthus. The one I saw last week at the Seattle Aquarium had to be just about 3 feet long....Facially I think the 2 look identical, Holacanthus has longer spins by a bit and stay smaller.
 
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