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lucky?

Member
I Don't have any local fishfriends at all. I've got 2 main display tanks a - 240 fish only, unstoppable growth and great fish, and a 2 month old reef tank (240 Gal as well)that has been suffocated by green hair algea. It was upgraded from a 125 and now it's a mess! I'm thinking about taking some liverock and my big tangs and placing them back in the 125 they came from and starting my 240 reef tank over with 100% RODI Water, The hair algae 2 is unstoppaable, a blenny could survive on this for it's entire life!! I take out gallons of water a day with a baster and I Hate this Algae!! I Have a 10" Vlamingi and 10" Naso that I can't compromise lots of other other healthy fish but the algae is taking over some coral as well!
HELP BEFORE I SLEDGEHAMMER MY TANK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

lucky?

Member
I have an 8 foot tank with 200 lbs or live rock that is encompassed with hair algae everywhere, Sand is
Fine but.... I feel like an ididot posting this, MY FISH ARE FINE but THE algae IS HAVING ITS WAY WITH MY TANK!
 

maxalmon

Active Member
We need to see your water readings...Also what lights are you running along with fuge setup. What type of water flow. Have you tested for silicates? Did you use tap water fro both tanks?
 

rabid frog

Active Member
A good fix I found to do with hair algae is as follows.
I took an old tube sock and attached it to the drain going into the sump/ refuge. I then took a stiff bristle brush of some sort, I used a tooth brush, to scrubb the rocks with the algae on it. I scrubbed and scrubbed. Once you get all the rocks scrubbed off in the tank water, take off what ever filter you have on your over flow. allow all the hair algae to syphon out of your tank into the tube sock. Throw the sock out and get another if the problem is still there. Repeat this process with heavy water changes using ro/di water. You can also cut down your light cycle a bit until you get the algae under control.
Have you looked at setting up a refuguim? People use these to grow macro algaes in the refuge part that out compete the hair algae for the nutrients to grow. This will also help out your situation imo. Hope this helps. I struggled with hair algae in my first reef tank for a long time. This is what eventually helped me.
 

ratrod

Member
Here's the cure-all I posted originally way back.
If your algea problem is fixed by adding a lawnmower blenny or a seahair trust me, you may have some algea but you dont have a real problem
Here's my algea 101 rant
I'm gonna give you my advise on the nasty hair algae curse. Not everone will agree with me on all of what I have to say but I can asure you I've had a reef up for over ten years and I've been to hell and back with this stuff and I'll tell you what works, for sure, some of the time, part of the time, and non of the time. It is true that hair algae loves phosphates and silica, and ofcourse light, and eliminating or reducing these things will help curb it to a degree, but here's the thing a perfectly healthy reef with good water quality can grow hair algae, especially if your reef has ever had it before. Water changes are the quickest way to get your PO4 under control assuming your using RO/DI water or a water source that has no PO4 in it. Here's the hard part and the part that always makes me laugh when people pipe off and say it, that is, all you have to do is worry about water quality and get it right and the hair algae goes away. Thats a joke and not true! The hair algae that is in your tank stores enough nutrients WITHIN ITSELF to grow at an alarming rate with perfect water readings!!! Dont be fooled just because the test kits read zero! Its like a heart problem, once you have, you dont cure it, you manage it. So, here's my 2 cents on how to get rid of it including all the blatent obvious things that are repeated over and over again. Bigger and longer established tanks are harder to treat than smaller ones.
1) Do water changes ofcourse, but rig yourself up a rigid length of clear tubing to your siphon hose to control and vacuum up all the loose algae and reef dust. If your not usin ro/di water you dont have a prayer!
2) To really get a head start take the rocks out of the tank and dip them into a bucket of salt water and scrub the holy livin hell out of em with a toothbrush.
3) Cutting your light time, and reducing your feedings are certainly helpful at least until you get it under control. Poeple say that older lights cause algae, its possible but changing them wont help much.
4) Get or make sure your skimmer is running properly! And replace your prefilter media constantly.
5) When selecting a clean-up crew, be careful not to over do it at first! Its great to have a snail for every gallon like some people say, and I dont totally disagree, but if you put a lot them in and some die off, you've now created more fuel for your algae.
6) Dump in some long spiny urchins, you cant kill hardly em, and they really mow! They can tip things over though.
7) The phos-ban products do help, but their expensive and with all the other factors they alone wont eliminate your algae only help manage it after you've gottin rid of a lot of it. I like the slower acting stuff for a long term preventative measure.
8) UV stearlization is good for some things, but worthless for hair algae.
The bottom line on all this is to get it under control you have to get a little drastic, or you wont get it under control. Then from that point on its prevention. Hope this helps.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Originally Posted by ratrod
Here's the cure-all I posted originally way back.
If your algea problem is fixed by adding a lawnmower blenny or a seahair trust me, you may have some algea but you dont have a real problem
Here's my algea 101 rant
I'm gonna give you my advise on the nasty hair algae curse. Not everone will agree with me on all of what I have to say but I can asure you I've had a reef up for over ten years and I've been to hell and back with this stuff and I'll tell you what works, for sure, some of the time, part of the time, and non of the time. It is true that hair algae loves phosphates and silica, and ofcourse light, and eliminating or reducing these things will help curb it to a degree, but here's the thing a perfectly healthy reef with good water quality can grow hair algae, especially if your reef has ever had it before. Water changes are the quickest way to get your PO4 under control assuming your using RO/DI water or a water source that has no PO4 in it. Here's the hard part and the part that always makes me laugh when people pipe off and say it, that is, all you have to do is worry about water quality and get it right and the hair algae goes away. Thats a joke and not true! The hair algae that is in your tank stores enough nutrients WITHIN ITSELF to grow at an alarming rate with perfect water readings!!! Dont be fooled just because the test kits read zero! Its like a heart problem, once you have, you dont cure it, you manage it. So, here's my 2 cents on how to get rid of it including all the blatent obvious things that are repeated over and over again. Bigger and longer established tanks are harder to treat than smaller ones.
1) Do water changes ofcourse, but rig yourself up a rigid length of clear tubing to your siphon hose to control and vacuum up all the loose algae and reef dust. If your not usin ro/di water you dont have a prayer!
2) To really get a head start take the rocks out of the tank and dip them into a bucket of salt water and scrub the holy livin hell out of em with a toothbrush.
3) Cutting your light time, and reducing your feedings are certainly helpful at least until you get it under control. Poeple say that older lights cause algae, its possible but changing them wont help much.
4) Get or make sure your skimmer is running properly! And replace your prefilter media constantly.
5) When selecting a clean-up crew, be careful not to over do it at first! Its great to have a snail for every gallon like some people say, and I dont totally disagree, but if you put a lot them in and some die off, you've now created more fuel for your algae.
6) Dump in some long spiny urchins, you cant kill hardly em, and they really mow! They can tip things over though.
7) The phos-ban products do help, but their expensive and with all the other factors they alone wont eliminate your algae only help manage it after you've gottin rid of a lot of it. I like the slower acting stuff for a long term preventative measure.
8) UV stearlization is good for some things, but worthless for hair algae.
The bottom line on all this is to get it under control you have to get a little drastic, or you wont get it under control. Then from that point on its prevention. Hope this helps.
 

guinness

Member
i had a problem with hair algea and switch to rodi water. it is cleaning up nicely after a water change. the clean up crew is helping wonderfully also. best advice ditch the tap water and invest in rodi unit.
 
DEER Cowrie....... To those who saw my previous posts about this creature, you will know that I was quite frusterated with him... However, he will eat the crap out of that algae and be happy to do it!!!!!! Going diving this weekend can get plenty for you!!!!
 
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