HELP whats wrong with my RBTA????
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fuzzylion44
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i dont think any of mine are jumpers? Lawnmower possibly. I added the phopshate remover and he seems a little better but still does not look right? So i should maybe talke the top off that side? is the temp ok or should it be lower? Ive had one answer lower and one stay the same? the phosphate is down from between 2-5 and now it is .5. Much better. Any more suggestions? I love all of everyones help by the way!!!!! 
rod buehle
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tops off IMO (not taking jumpers into effect here). the tops will block light. Especially if not cleaned everyday. They trap heat in. the prevent gas exchange>co2 build-up>lower pH>.....
Temp: The average of all the tropical reefs throughout the year .. Average, throughout the year is 84.. In the summer some creep up into the nineties. In the winter, some will drop to the mid 70s. The best recommendation for our average/typical tanks is about 80. I would say 84, but the o2 levels are lower at higher temp and a little less room for error. Some species of anemones will require different temps than others. Some will need more consistent temps, some will accept a widely varying temp. My giganteas seem happiest at around 84-85, but I dont recommend that for the average reef tank. If you are keeping a fish only tank, the 75 that was recommended is a good temp, but corals anemones and such will prefer more natural reef temps.
FWIW, I highly doubt that po4 is your issue here Although they are WAAYY high). I would bet that water flow (which will also greatly effect gas exchange). If your not running a sump and or a good protein skimmer I am bettingh that your gas exchange is low. Good skimmers in a sump set up would be great, but I would at least recommend removing the tops, and adding some water movement via some wide flow power heads (maxi jet mods.. Koriala.. tunze.. seio..) wide flow.
Also the recommendations for RO/DI are another something that should be considered before all else ...
Temp: The average of all the tropical reefs throughout the year .. Average, throughout the year is 84.. In the summer some creep up into the nineties. In the winter, some will drop to the mid 70s. The best recommendation for our average/typical tanks is about 80. I would say 84, but the o2 levels are lower at higher temp and a little less room for error. Some species of anemones will require different temps than others. Some will need more consistent temps, some will accept a widely varying temp. My giganteas seem happiest at around 84-85, but I dont recommend that for the average reef tank. If you are keeping a fish only tank, the 75 that was recommended is a good temp, but corals anemones and such will prefer more natural reef temps.
FWIW, I highly doubt that po4 is your issue here Although they are WAAYY high). I would bet that water flow (which will also greatly effect gas exchange). If your not running a sump and or a good protein skimmer I am bettingh that your gas exchange is low. Good skimmers in a sump set up would be great, but I would at least recommend removing the tops, and adding some water movement via some wide flow power heads (maxi jet mods.. Koriala.. tunze.. seio..) wide flow.
Also the recommendations for RO/DI are another something that should be considered before all else ...
hlcroghan
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Originally Posted by fuzzylion44
http:///forum/post/3004273
i dont think any of mine are jumpers? Lawnmower possibly. I added the phopshate remover and he seems a little better but still does not look right? So i should maybe talke the top off that side? is the temp ok or should it be lower? Ive had one answer lower and one stay the same? the phosphate is down from between 2-5 and now it is .5. Much better. Any more suggestions? I love all of everyones help by the way!!!!!
Yes, I would take off the top on that side if you can. I don't think LB are prone to jumping.....haven't heard that at least. I have talked to several people that suggest 80 degrees of higher can stress the animals out a bit. Several of the dealers and buyers I have talked to said they see 77 as being the ideal so far with their livestock. I recently lowered my temp as well and things seem to be doing better in my tank but it is individual. Also if your temp rises in your home a lot in summer then that is something to consider. You don't want large fluctuations in temperature and if you don't keep your house cooler than 77 that could be a problem....
edit: well, he knows way more than me so maybe you could do an average of 78 to 79 instead then????
http:///forum/post/3004273
i dont think any of mine are jumpers? Lawnmower possibly. I added the phopshate remover and he seems a little better but still does not look right? So i should maybe talke the top off that side? is the temp ok or should it be lower? Ive had one answer lower and one stay the same? the phosphate is down from between 2-5 and now it is .5. Much better. Any more suggestions? I love all of everyones help by the way!!!!!
Yes, I would take off the top on that side if you can. I don't think LB are prone to jumping.....haven't heard that at least. I have talked to several people that suggest 80 degrees of higher can stress the animals out a bit. Several of the dealers and buyers I have talked to said they see 77 as being the ideal so far with their livestock. I recently lowered my temp as well and things seem to be doing better in my tank but it is individual. Also if your temp rises in your home a lot in summer then that is something to consider. You don't want large fluctuations in temperature and if you don't keep your house cooler than 77 that could be a problem....
edit: well, he knows way more than me so maybe you could do an average of 78 to 79 instead then????
ibew41
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rod Buehle
http:///forum/post/3004311
tops off IMO (not taking jumpers into effect here). the tops will block light. Especially if not cleaned everyday. They trap heat in. the prevent gas exchange>co2 build-up>lower pH>.....
Temp: The average of all the tropical reefs throughout the year .. Average, throughout the year is 84.. In the summer some creep up into the nineties. In the winter, some will drop to the mid 70s. The best recommendation for our average/typical tanks is about 80. I would say 84, but the o2 levels are lower at higher temp and a little less room for error. Some species of anemones will require different temps than others. Some will need more consistent temps, some will accept a widely varying temp. My giganteas seem happiest at around 84-85, but I dont recommend that for the average reef tank. If you are keeping a fish only tank, the 75 that was recommended is a good temp, but corals anemones and such will prefer more natural reef temps.
FWIW, I highly doubt that po4 is your issue here Although they are WAAYY high). I would bet that water flow (which will also greatly effect gas exchange). If your not running a sump and or a good protein skimmer I am betting that your gas exchange is low. Good skimmers in a sump set up would be great, but I would at least recommend removing the tops, and adding some water movement via some wide flow power heads (maxi jet mods.. Koriala.. tunze.. seio..) wide flow.
Also the recommendations for RO/DI are another something that should be considered before all else ...
+1 temp is fine do you have a good skimmer? and yes take the top of for better co exchange
http:///forum/post/3004311
tops off IMO (not taking jumpers into effect here). the tops will block light. Especially if not cleaned everyday. They trap heat in. the prevent gas exchange>co2 build-up>lower pH>.....
Temp: The average of all the tropical reefs throughout the year .. Average, throughout the year is 84.. In the summer some creep up into the nineties. In the winter, some will drop to the mid 70s. The best recommendation for our average/typical tanks is about 80. I would say 84, but the o2 levels are lower at higher temp and a little less room for error. Some species of anemones will require different temps than others. Some will need more consistent temps, some will accept a widely varying temp. My giganteas seem happiest at around 84-85, but I dont recommend that for the average reef tank. If you are keeping a fish only tank, the 75 that was recommended is a good temp, but corals anemones and such will prefer more natural reef temps.
FWIW, I highly doubt that po4 is your issue here Although they are WAAYY high). I would bet that water flow (which will also greatly effect gas exchange). If your not running a sump and or a good protein skimmer I am betting that your gas exchange is low. Good skimmers in a sump set up would be great, but I would at least recommend removing the tops, and adding some water movement via some wide flow power heads (maxi jet mods.. Koriala.. tunze.. seio..) wide flow.
Also the recommendations for RO/DI are another something that should be considered before all else ...
+1 temp is fine do you have a good skimmer? and yes take the top of for better co exchange
fuzzylion44
Member
ok so heres an update. Yesterday i spent hours removing the glass top and making a mesh one just in case of jumping. The phosphates are .5 now. I tried to feed him a shrimp last night he looked great sucked it up really fast but then i got up this am and he had spit it all back out whole hardly any digestion. Now he still looks the same today. The salinity was a little high not much around 1.026 but i usually keep it between .23 and .24. So i went ahead and added fresh water today. The weird thing is i have a white seabae on the same side and he looks great?????? Im running out of options sigh.