Helpful Fuge?

russianspy

russianspy

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I have alot of cyanobacteria, and it grows because of nutrient rich water!!! If i added a Fuge to my tank would that posibly slow down or end my cyanobacteria problem?
Nitrate & Nitrite 0 mg/L
Ammonia 0.50 mg/L
PH 8.0
I tested my tap water and it came out clean? Would it work?
 
russianspy

russianspy

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My TAp water has nothing in it, How is it growing from my lights everyone has lights and they don't have it...I saw a studdy say people who use tap water had an 80% better chance of keeping anemonies...DO you ad minerals to your water, and buying RO/Di water is to expensive for me...I'ma teen not a millionaree
 
dburr

dburr

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Just buying a RO/DI will not solve all your problems with cyno.
Did you do a search on cyno? I know their is a huge thread on it.
Some basic qestions:
How much do you feed? Is it quality food?
How big is your tank? How much current? Is their surface break?
Do you blow off your LR? Do you have a sand bed?
How often do you change water?
Their is a start.
 
russianspy

russianspy

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No, That much ammonia, It could be casued by my Tang I added recently.
Dburr
1. Yes, I read the cyano thread
2. I feed one pintch in the morrining and one at night and 50mg phytoplankton every other day, I feed twice a day becasue my Flame angel will pick at my corals if i don't feed it, I'm positive he'll pick
3.My tank is 45 Gallons
4. I have 2 250 gph powerheads and my filter which does about half the tank a day, And my protien skimmmer
5. Surface break? The surface of the water moves? It always does if you mean is a powerhead doing that thin were it creates a mound on the water surface NO.
6. I have no idea how to blow of live rock
7. Yes, thats were it is if you look at my photo its half sand half coral gravel (Photo Below)
8. I just started changing my water about every months 5% and i add water every other day to replace evaporated water
 
zap800

zap800

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you might tap is safe but i posted before that i called my water company and they told me that they add phosphates to the water and there are nitrates in the water from run off of rain from farms. there is also the thing with silicates and my water company doesnt even test for them. so dont think tht tap is safe please. go to walmart and get ro water. mine has a culligan water station and it sells water for 33 cents a gallon.
 
X

xoxox

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I'd just like to say that I had an algae problem and I got a refuge, then I had an algea problem in the refuge. As a matter of fact the fuge was growing all sorts of nasty algae (even those funny hotdog bubble algae) Then I purchased halides, so much for the severe algae problem. I had pcs on the tank (220watts on a 55) but the bulbs were bad and now my pcs are just the dusk/dawn lights.
 
russianspy

russianspy

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Originally posted by zap800
water company and they told me that they add phosphates to the water
I was going to go get a phosphate tester becasue that was my next guess, as for distille dwater, that ends up getting that slimy stuff in it.....Or is it the same as RO? Any use it? And XoXoX your post was a bit confusing, your fuge ended up growing bad algae, but what about yur lights how are they bad? I"m updateing to a 75 gallon soo in a month or so the Tang will be put there but until now its in that one, I was thinking of just trashing my Flame Angel it's more of a pain and wasn't worth the money.
 
russianspy

russianspy

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I didn't get that anemone study from the internet I got it froma book
Clownfishs: A Guide to Their Captive Care, Breeding & Natural History - By Joyce D. Wilkerson
Alot of people have this book I think when I go to the Clownfish & Anemonies....It's in that book
 
dburr

dburr

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2. I feed one pintch in the morrining and one at night and 50mg phytoplankton every other day, I feed twice a day becasue my Flame angel will pick at my corals if i don't feed it, I'm positive he'll pick
Feeding 2 times is not a problem if the flame picks. The phyto every other day may be fueling the cyno. I would stop for a couple weeks and maybe go to once a week. Look up the front of your glass from the side. The inside of the front that is. Do you see a green film? does it get green pretty fast after you clean it? If yes thats phyto, you have enough in your system.
4. I have 2 250 gph powerheads and my filter which does about half the tank a day, And my protien skimmmer
Movment, IMO, is OK but alittle more would be great. Maybe 1 more 250 PH.
5. Surface break? The surface of the water moves? It always does if you mean is a powerhead doing that thin were it creates a mound on the water surface NO.
I mean nice waving motion, not a big hump of water.:D Some nice ripple keeps the gass exchange going good. Algae hates oxigen.
6. I have no idea how to blow of live rock
Take a PH or turkey baster(my choise:D )and blow off the rocks. Keeping the pores clean keeps the rocks working. I do this prolly once every 2 weeks.
Next water change suck out any cyno as best as you can. Aiming a PH toward the worst area helps.
HTH, LMK how it works for ya, Dan
 
russianspy

russianspy

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I was thinking of getting 1 more Powerhead...No surface break...I'll do that with my next powerhead..As for the phyto, No the water doesn't turn green, and there is no green film anyweree (The Cyanos red)..I will have to try that turky baster thing next time i go to the store
 
jfloydr

jfloydr

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Are you sure that you have cyano. Cyano should be slimy and stringy. Iv'e never had cyano but from what I've seen it seems to show up in peoples tank that use tap water. From your picture it looks like it could be diatoms. They are rusty colored and look kind of like dust covering everything. If it is diatoms, I had it for 2 months. I thought they would never go away but one day it just disappeared. How long has the tank been set up? If its only been a couple of months it could still be going through its algea cycles. I would start using something other than tap water. I use distiiled water from Walmart. With your size tank you shouldn't need but a couple of gallons a week. Keep us updated.
Jeff
 
russianspy

russianspy

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Der...No its not dusty its a red color...maybe rusty a bit and slimy..I'm prett sure its cyano....never know though..thanks for thast thought i'll have to check it out
 
X

xoxox

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When the lights start to got bad they lose their original intensity. This can add to an algae problem since the algae thrive in this lower spectrum. Thats what happened to me, I purchased a fuge thinking it was a nutrient problem when it was actually a light problem. Had a lot of interesting things growing in that fuge (some of it very nasty crab killing algae).
 
reefmad

reefmad

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if yr bulbs are good then try a phosphate sponge it worked for me even when test results are good . the algea has to live off of it so if you have algea,, you have some phos.
hope this helps as it worked for me.
And i use tap water very great tap water for 2 yrs now on my tanks and have no problems just do a weekly water change and dont add chemicals,, but sometimes i use aggramilk and do some coral idione dips.
 
overanalyzer

overanalyzer

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Lots of good advice here - I'd add one more bit:
get a powerhead and place it low in your tank to move water across your sand bed. Nothing too powerful - but I'd get it going that route and I'd stop all phyto feedings for at least a week.
Next - I got cyano when my RO filters went bad. So if you are using tap water be prepared to fight the algea battle for ever.
Lastly - will a fuge help - YES - will it be a cure-all - no. Think of your tank as if it were a human body. You can be Dr. Frankenstein and sew a bunch of almost there pieces together but the spark of life takes a whole lot of careful planning and balancing! So if you use faulty equipment or shoddy water then you will not get the clear spark of brilliant life like you want ....
 
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