hey im new to this. just would like to introduce myelf.

deejeff442

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down really?good to hear.it dont bother me much now that my ford ranger is fixed.$50 to fill it and last 3 days.my one ton work truck $50 just enough to get to the next gas station
 
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nubz

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So i did a water change about 10g and my sg dropped but now my nitrates when up.
 

chain

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Welcome!!
Nitrates increasing is to be expected during the nitrogen cycle (The nitrogen cycle never ends, it is always taking place in your system as long as your system/ or you are still supplying a source of ammonia). As the bacteria reaches equilibrium in your system; Ammonia increases ( ammonia is supplied by the shrimp decaying as said previously, or multiple other means) which causes nitrifying bacteria to form which convert ammonia into nitrite. The presence of nitrite causes a separate type of nitrifying bacteria to form converting nitrite into nitrate. Nitrate is a bit more difficult to get rid of hence water changes, some type of media, macroalgae, etc. A combined form of the all the above seem to be the best choice to keep nitrates in check. Your source water may have some nitrates in it, in which case you might test the water before adding to your system to see what it contains. Its nothing to worry about taking into consideration that you have no life in your tank as of yet (besides the rock if any was live). Saltwater fish in general are pretty lenient when it comes to nitrates; however saltwater inverts and corals don't care too much for nitrate, hence the reason we have to work just a bit harder to keep water parameters stable and maintenance a regular activity.
Keep asking questions, no question you ask is 'too simple' or 'silly'. We are here to help you in your continuing endeavor and truly wish to see you succeed to see the fruits of your labor. This is a wonderful hobby and one of which you can enjoy for a lifetime. It's one of the most fulfilling feelings to see the organisms thrive in your system. We have all been exactly where you are at one point and time and would love nothing more then to see the pictures of your final produce.
Truly best of luck
 
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nubz

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Thank you very much Chain, thats was a great explanation and i understand that alot better. i hope to be getting a pic up here soon but as i said i only have my camera phone.
 
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nubz

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the day i set the tank up

this what it looks like now with light and more LR. I have yet to put anything in cuz i was waiting for my lights but i think im gonna put my CUC in tomorrow
 
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nubz

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So i got some cleaners today

2 cleaner shrimp
1 banded coral shrimp
2 sally legged crabs
10 hermit crabs
i dunno if i should get more cleaners or other kinds so if anyone has some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
 

gemmy

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The coral banded poses some issues, since they can be a tad on the aggressive side. Do you have any snails?
 

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///forum/thread/384421/hey-im-new-to-this-just-would-like-to-introduce-myelf/20#post_3371955
The coral banded poses some issues, since they can be a tad on the aggressive side. Do you have any snails?
+1
The coral banded shrimp is rather predatory - I had one many years ago that enjoyed ripping hermit crabs out off their shells and dining on their tails.....I kept finding 1/2 eaten hermits each morning - and finally got smart and began watching the tank at nite with a flashlight. Caught the CBS in the act one nite and he dropped the hermit - which ran like heck....the CBS was returned to the lfs the next morning...
 
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nubz

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///forum/thread/384421/hey-im-new-to-this-just-would-like-to-introduce-myelf/20#post_3371962
+1
The coral banded shrimp is rather predatory - I had one many years ago that enjoyed ripping hermit crabs out off their shells and dining on their tails.....I kept finding 1/2 eaten hermits each morning - and finally got smart and began watching the tank at nite with a flashlight. Caught the CBS in the act one nite and he dropped the hermit - which ran like heck....the CBS was returned to the lfs the next morning...
Yea i had my first KIA in my tank, the cbs got to close to one of my powerheads so now i dont have to worry bout him eating anything in my tank now. I was gonna buy some snails but my lfs just sold outta them so i gotta wait for them to get restocked.
 

deejeff442

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my coral banded is big like the size of my fist.i have had him for years and he dont bother a thing.just got lucky i guess.
 

yannifish

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You may want to wait to put the snail in until you have some algae growth so they have something to eat.
Actually, with your live rock you should be fine.
Do you have a quarantine tank set up? If not, get a 10-20 gallon tank, heater, and filter and set it up with the temperature and salinity to match the display tank.. The purpose of this tank is when you get a fish, you quarantine it for 4-6 weeks to make sure it doesn't have a disease and is eating well. If it has a disease you can treat it in the quarantine tank. If you have live rock or invertebrates in your display tank you are very limited as to what you can do to treat diseases, as most medications kill inverts. So, set up a quarantine tank. Believe me, it is worth the money. When I first got my clownfish, I almost lost them to ich (a common marine parasite) while setting up the quarantine tank to treat them. Luckily they survived, but a less hardy fish would almost certainly have died.
Tank looks great! You may want to get a couple more powerheads, it looks like you could use more surface agitation.
Whats the plan for this tank, reef?
 

tangs rule

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+1000 on a Qtine setup for all new fish...I set up a 20 tall and use pvc & coffee cup for the fish to hide in. Inert things work best in Qtine - sand & rock can absorb medications - making them forever unusable in a main tank & making keeping a constant medication level harder.
 

yannifish

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///forum/thread/384421/hey-im-new-to-this-just-would-like-to-introduce-myelf/20#post_3372117
+1000 on a Qtine setup for all new fish...I set up a 20 tall and use pvc & coffee cup for the fish to hide in. Inert things work best in Qtine - sand & rock can absorb medications - making them forever unusable in a main tank & making keeping a constant medication level harder.
+1 on the PVC. The fish need somewhere to hide or else they will really get stressed.
 
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nubz

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I'm gonna be getting my lady's lil fluval tank that she doesn't want anymore cuz she says its to much work seeing that its used for a salt tank so i might make that a QT tank then, its only a 5ga tank dunno if that is good enough for one tho. As to the question of what type of tank i'm gonna go with i want it to be a reef tank with a few select fish that will work well with them, i dont thing i'm gonna go with any sps cuz i think im to new for that and ill wait tell i buy a house to where i kno my tank is gonna be there for the rest of my life. One day when that happens i want a tank 500gal+ lol.
i put 5 snails in today and they seem to be doing fine eating off the rocks as of now. The guy at my lfs convinced my friend in to buying a scooter blenny too, i kno the eat brim shrimp and copepod's, i added live copepod awhile ago before i put anything else in my tank so they'd have time to multiply. the blenny has been eating off the rocks since i put him/her in over 4 hours ago. oh and one of my sally lightfoot crabs molted already so i guess thats a plus to water quality?
 
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nubz

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thats the biggest snail and one of the cleaner shrimp.


One of the sally's.

got a nice face shot of the blenny
 

yannifish

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A scooter blenny in a tank this new probably wont work out long term...
Especially without a refugium.
Scooter blennies (and mandarins) need huge amounts of copepods to stay alive, and your tank probably can't provide them. I'd start trying to get it to eat other foods right away.
 
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