Hey Tim!!

kronnk7

kronnk7

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thanks coach, I have about another 35 lbs I'm going to put in later and I'm looking for about 35-40 lbs of base rock to go with it. I'll keep you updated.
 
kronnk7

kronnk7

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Good eye!
Yeah, that's my little 10 gallon. It's my coral tank right now. I'm going to put all of my corals in the 90 in about 3 weeks then use the 10 for a QT. I figure I'll leave my 3 stripe damsel in it to keep it cycled. ( He's a ---- anyways
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fishfeeder

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Hey coach, I am setting up almost the same setup as kronnk7 (90 gal, 30L sump, with overflow box)...I have a mag 9.5 and 12 for return and closed loop. Right now I have 4 mj1200s in the tank for flow, which I want to remove and use a CL. What kind of flow do you recommend for a 90 gal tank? I would also like to run by you my sump layout which may help determine what I should use!
Thanx,
Jay
 
coachklm

coachklm

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I am thinking of experimenting with my next sump.... i dont see many problems with the layout except microbubbles from an overflow effect of your refugium unless......
iv'e never worked on this layout tim has but i'm thinking a single 1" hole or less depending on the incoming flow in the lower end of the refugium.... hang on i'm going to brainstorm this for awhile... :thinking:
 
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fishfeeder

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it should flow over the refugium baffle and hit the piece of glass coming off of the baffle that is just below water level so the water skims across the top of the return section...I think I got this idea off of melev's website but i'm not positive?
What do you think the flow should be inside my tank? e.g. do you think I should have 10x, 15x, 20x, ect?
 
coachklm

coachklm

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depends on your ideas and what tank is for? fo/fowlr/ mixed/ reef?
you want a good sized turnover regardless ...I liked 15x for mixed but its not really how much water your filtering but what the flow is doing... you need an alternating current/ little to none dead spots/ no tornado effect. ill try and find a good diagram...
Laminar flow: Laminar flow is straight, unidirectional flow, like that produced from a powerhead, or at the latter stages of a wave whose energy has been channeled in one direction by the reef.
Surge: Surge is similar, only on a larger scale. To an observer viewing a school of fish, surge is when the school remains in the same pocket of water, but due to surge, the pocket of water and the school of fish suddenly move six feet in one direction, and just as quickly move back.
Turbulence: Turbulence is the random flow of water in multiple directions. Of the three flow patterns, turbulence is the most desirable and the most difficult to produce
 
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fishfeeder

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I am planning on doing a reef I guess (fish, rock, corals, ect) ... I don't have much intent on keeping any SPS right now but maybe in the future... I have a hard time getting the flow right for my corals... I had green star polyps that was positioned on a rock in my tank but were getting severely blown over.... I tried to adjust my PH's but then my other corals weren't getting the right flow? Without tearing down my rocks and removing the polyps or other corals and mounting elsewhere, I was stuck...the polyps soon went away and haven't returned. How exactly do you know where to mount new corals without having to always re-adjust other corals?
I'm thinking of using the mag 12 for the CL and the 9.5 for return which would give me around 20x flow? What advice could you give me on this sort of setup in terms of pipe placement, alternating current, ect.?
thanx,
Jay
 
coachklm

coachklm

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tim has better understanding of this kind of setup with the split refugium...maybe he can pop in and give an opinipon.
 
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fishfeeder

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90 gal tank, 30L sump, I have my sump designed like the picture about 4 post up... I also have a mag 12 that I am thinking about using for a CL? Right now I have 4 mj1200's...what is the best rate of flow for my tank, and what would be the best way to setup my CL?
thanx,
Jay
 
turningtim

turningtim

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What are you doing for the overflow and return? Barring SPS you will be fine with 15-20 times.
Lets figure flow first with the OF and return and then move on to the CL. We also need to calc backwash unless you've done that. That will determine baffle height and fuge room!
 
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I haven't purchased the overflow yet, but I plan on trying to get one that is about 800 gph?! I really don't plan on having any SPS right now but after some experience I might later.
You lost me with the backwash?
Sump- 36 x 17 x 12 - bubble trap 10" high baffles - refugium 14" high baffle
 
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