hi performence car sites

drtito

Member
I am looking for a site simler to SWF.com that could help me with motor problems on my truck. If anybody is into high performence cars and has found a good site tell me.
My problem is a gas one my pedal do not move enough and my rpm is low. lokar gas pedal lots of parts under the hood.
 

girlina4x4

Member
I dunno of any car sites similar to this one...but what seems to be the problem? I'll ask my bf. He built the fastest bmw in the panhandle, and really knows his stuff about high performance cars
 

drtito

Member
For some reason When I floor it the gas dose not reach the carb fast enough to burn em up. I changed the fuel line to 1/2 inch steel lines with rubber hose flex lines to avoid the gas line going flat at high revs. but that was not it.
I am thinking of removing the LOKAR gas pedal and redoing the assmbley, if I move the wire on the pedal lower it might give me more power, there are five slots in the eliminator pedal,( in the middel now) or fabing a new floor panel for the pedal that will allow me to tilt the pedal some thing like 1 inch back.
I have a 85 ford F150 5.0 with to much under the hood, saving for turbo and No2
last thing it could be is the trans assbly. but I am not sure on how good auto trans wire shifters are. Ask your BF please I will look into anything that I might have over looked.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Ok if you leave it in 1st and not drive, does it still do it?
Just make sure its not hesitation from the trans downshifting..
If the car is going lean on tip in.. you may need to.. probably need to change jets or have a different carb or modify the one you have on there for this type of application. What kind of fuel pump are you running and how much pressure?
If the car is just lacking throttle response and its not a lean on tip in issue, you may need to just adjust the throttle cable and that pedal..
I seriously doubt you're going to gain any power changing slots on the pedal maybe throttle response and thats it..
Also why the ******l are you trying to make a 302 F150 quick? Dumping all that money for a turbo and n2o (nitrous oxide) is pretty stupid when you could do the same thing in a foxbody and go much quicker as the chassis is better for drag racing and much lighter.
Girlina... also how quick was his BMW? that's pretty funny to hear as aftermarket support is pretty slim for them and VERY expensive for what you do get.
 

drtito

Member
I have an eldebrock fuel pump as for the size I chose it for eaSE of replacement(when I blow it I can fix it in a week) I dont drag race in that car. I use it for off road fun dirt roads and jumps. I will look at the pedal and yes I want more reponse.
As for the drag strip I have a 69 cad with a 472 big block runns 11s at the track minir mods , lots of fun. Blow the doors off most import and domesitis in town. That cars screams pull me over. The gang unit likes to stop me in it.
 

krominix

New Member
yeah how fast was the beamer..... and ditto... listen to rotary drop the f-150 and pick up a foxbody..... or better yet an f-body like me
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Originally Posted by DrTITO
http:///forum/post/2860400
I have an eldebrock fuel pump as for the size I chose it for eaSE of replacement(when I blow it I can fix it in a week) I dont drag race in that car. I use it for off road fun dirt roads and jumps. I will look at the pedal and yes I want more reponse.
As for the drag strip I have a 69 cad with a 472 big block runns 11s at the track minir mods , lots of fun. Blow the doors off most import and domesitis in town. That cars screams pull me over. The gang unit likes to stop me in it.

472cubes and only running 11s??? eek...
I ran mid 10s with my daily driver 283inch mod motor on a 150shot, pumpgas too...lol...
 

ray j neal

Member
Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2860363
Ok if you leave it in 1st and not drive, does it still do it?
Just make sure its not hesitation from the trans downshifting..
If the car is going lean on tip in.. you may need to.. probably need to change jets or have a different carb or modify the one you have on there for this type of application. What kind of fuel pump are you running and how much pressure?
If the car is just lacking throttle response and its not a lean on tip in issue, you may need to just adjust the throttle cable and that pedal..
I seriously doubt you're going to gain any power changing slots on the pedal maybe throttle response and thats it..
Also why the ******l are you trying to make a 302 F150 quick? Dumping all that money for a turbo and n2o (nitrous oxide) is pretty stupid when you could do the same thing in a foxbody and go much quicker as the chassis is better for drag racing and much lighter.
Girlina... also how quick was his BMW? that's pretty funny to hear as aftermarket support is pretty slim for them and VERY expensive for what you do get.

Well, to elaborate on what ol boy said here. If you haven't seen some other posts of mine in the aquarium, I am a Master Diagnostic Toyota tech, Gold certified Subaru tech as well as Master ASE III Machinist. I have built a handful of high-horse (read: north of 1,000) big blocks in the area as well as an Enderly alky injected 10-71 468bbc.
I need more info on your setup besides 'tons of goods'. Importantly, what model carb, is it spread or square bore. Is it mechanical or vacuum secondaries? What size primary/secondaries, air bleeds (drilled or not?) accelerator pump shot size.
Have someone sit in vehicle (or use a hood prop, pry bar etc) and put pedal to the floor. Check to see that both primary and secondary throttle plates are WOT (90 degrees to base of carb).
You may be lean off idle. Check this by putting your hand over the top of the carb and see if the idle increases. If it does, you are running lean. Using a vacuum gauge adjust idle air mix screws until highest vacuum reading is achieved, then go roughly 1/16 turn more. You will then need to adjust your idle set

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again. Be careful how much you adjust this. If you adjust too much you will begin to open the 'transfer' circuit and be off the idle circuit. When this happens I drill 1/64" air bleeds in the primary throttle plate. When I do this I will then dial in the idle mixture again.
Another thing you can do is play with the accelerator pump cam. I steeper cam will give you a shorter but larger shot of fuel. The accel pump is what covers up the hiccup when mashing the throttle.
To touch base on your fuel line possibly collapsing. This happens when running an inline pump, and one need worry about it when neoprene line is used on the inlet side as the suction from the pump may collapse the line.
I can go on and on for pages, but this is all useless to you unless I have more specific symptom description and a better idea of your setup. No need for the 'other' forums. This type of stuff is my life and my contribution to swf.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by KroMiniX
http:///forum/post/2860460
yeah how fast was the beamer.....
Just a quick FYI....a beemer is a BMW motorcycle. A BMW with 4 wheels is a bimmer.
beemer=motorcycle
bimmer=automobile
Ray is correct. We need boat-loads more info.
Did the problem arise after an accelerator pedal upgrade or was it there beforehand?
Is the motor a fresh build? Or did you add a few bolt-ons?
Incorrect cam timing can produce the results you described. As can being overcarbureted, which is common. What carb are you running? Misadjusted secondaries can cause eng. to bog at full throttle. Incorrect jetting. Over the counter carbs are jetted rich from the factory to eliminate lean condition engine damage during initial testing and adjustment period. You almost always need to switch to leaner jets when tuning the engine.
Black smoke from exhaust on acceleration? Running too fat. This will cause the engine to bog.
Rerarded ignition timing will cause lack of power at all RPM.
Verify that the trans. is shifting through all gears.
Run the eng. hard (full throttle) through first gear with the trans. in manual low. This rules out inoperative kickdown.
How high does the engine rev in each gear? Are you starving for fuel...or not opening the throttle plates far enough? Have a friend mash the accelerator while you peer down the venturis at the throttle blades. Do they fully open? If so, this is not your problem. (ps...do this with the eng off)
Answer a few Qs for us and we can pin this problem down.
Hey Ray, my 4.7 V8 yota is due for a timing belt. Can I lock the cam sprockets at TDC, instead of rotating the crank 50 degrees before removing the timing belt? I'd like to do it this way rather than rotating the engine off TDC to do the belt. I know that if I remove the belt with the crank at TDC it will bend valves when the cams jump so I want to lock them in place. Should I just follow instructions and rotate the eng 50 degrees off TDC? How do you guys at Toyota do it? I'm going to do the water pump at the same time. Have you ever seen the idlers and tensioner fail? Should I replace them as precautionary insurance?
Former Chrysler Tech here, now turning wrenches a couple days a week to help out a nearby Meineke owner. (I thought I had retired)
 

drtito

Member
Here a few parts
I have an edelbrock 450 round carb
edelbrock fuel pump with down shots for clernce
tha carb runs on--- off road floats and needles
when I rase the hoood and run it in park I get full movement of the plates by hand ,when i do it with the pedal I get less I found when its in low gear the pedel gose to the floor with no problem. I am sure it hits the trans linkage now.
I will check those sites out.
 

ray j neal

Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2860765
Just a quick FYI....a beemer is a BMW motorcycle. A BMW with 4 wheels is a bimmer.
beemer=motorcycle
bimmer=automobile
Ray is correct. We need boat-loads more info.
Did the problem arise after an accelerator pedal upgrade or was it there beforehand?
Is the motor a fresh build? Or did you add a few bolt-ons?
Incorrect cam timing can produce the results you described. As can being overcarbureted, which is common. What carb are you running? Misadjusted secondaries can cause eng. to bog at full throttle. Incorrect jetting. Over the counter carbs are jetted rich from the factory to eliminate lean condition engine damage during initial testing and adjustment period. You almost always need to switch to leaner jets when tuning the engine.
Black smoke from exhaust on acceleration? Running too fat. This will cause the engine to bog.
Rerarded ignition timing will cause lack of power at all RPM.
Verify that the trans. is shifting through all gears.
Run the eng. hard (full throttle) through first gear with the trans. in manual low. This rules out inoperative kickdown.
How high does the engine rev in each gear? Are you starving for fuel...or not opening the throttle plates far enough? Have a friend mash the accelerator while you peer down the venturis at the throttle blades. Do they fully open? If so, this is not your problem. (ps...do this with the eng off)
Answer a few Qs for us and we can pin this problem down.
Hey Ray, my 4.7 V8 yota is due for a timing belt. Can I lock the cam sprockets at TDC, instead of rotating the crank 50 degrees before removing the timing belt? I'd like to do it this way rather than rotating the engine off TDC to do the belt. I know that if I remove the belt with the crank at TDC it will bend valves when the cams jump so I want to lock them in place. Should I just follow instructions and rotate the eng 50 degrees off TDC? How do you guys at Toyota do it? I'm going to do the water pump at the same time. Have you ever seen the idlers and tensioner fail? Should I replace them as precautionary insurance?
Former Chrysler Tech here, now turning wrenches a couple days a week to help out a nearby Meineke owner. (I thought I had retired)

4.7L 2UZ-FE? I do not set the timing 50 degrees retarded nor do I know any techs that do. Some motors I will set the Intake/Exhaust cams off one tooth from eachother to compensate for slack in the belt. Persnally I have never locked the cams, nor seen anyone do it on this motor. I use a SST that looks something like: )--( and the center is threaded with a nut. Place this against the idler to aid in install. If any cam does rotate on you due to spring pressure (almost always the right bank (left if standing infront of vehicle) is the one to rotate on you). I have had cams jump on me due to spring force and have NEVER damaged a valve. It is possible. DEFINANTLY replace the water pump while you are in there.
Inspect timing idler for oil leakage or worn bearings. If there is none, do not replace it. Check the seal portion of the timing tensioner for oil leakage. If anything but the slightest amount of oil is seen on the seal on the pushrod side replace it. Try to push the tensioner pushrod with your hand, if there is movement, replace it. When doing this be sure to not hold the tensioner with the pintle facing downward. Pushrod protrusion should not be more than 10.5-11.5mm. Tensioner will take anywhere from 220-2205(?) lb/ft of pressure to compress. I do this in a vise.
ANY more questions please ask. This is my contribution to this forum.
 

drtito

Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2861160
look for mustang clubs. Or ford clubs. They'll have forums.
thanks man I found one almost exactly like SWF.com
Ford F150 Forum check it out for all you f150 needs. thanks everybody.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by Ray J Neal
http:///forum/post/2861547
4.7L 2UZ-FE? I do not set the timing 50 degrees retarded nor do I know any techs that do. Some motors I will set the Intake/Exhaust cams off one tooth from eachother to compensate for slack in the belt. Persnally I have never locked the cams, nor seen anyone do it on this motor. I use a SST that looks something like: )--( and the center is threaded with a nut. Place this against the idler to aid in install. If any cam does rotate on you due to spring pressure (almost always the right bank (left if standing infront of vehicle) is the one to rotate on you). I have had cams jump on me due to spring force and have NEVER damaged a valve. It is possible. DEFINANTLY replace the water pump while you are in there.
Inspect timing idler for oil leakage or worn bearings. If there is none, do not replace it. Check the seal portion of the timing tensioner for oil leakage. If anything but the slightest amount of oil is seen on the seal on the pushrod side replace it. Try to push the tensioner pushrod with your hand, if there is movement, replace it. When doing this be sure to not hold the tensioner with the pintle facing downward. Pushrod protrusion should not be more than 10.5-11.5mm. Tensioner will take anywhere from 220-2205(?) lb/ft of pressure to compress. I do this in a vise.
ANY more questions please ask. This is my contribution to this forum.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I don't know any toy techs and all I had was stupid Alldata. I found it odd that they had such a strong warning about letting the cam jump and bending valves. I didn't know if the engine used lightweight valves with small stems that were prone to bending or what. I picked up the belt today and will buy a water pump as well. Will the Mitsubishi 2.0 liter tensioner "grenade pin" fit the Toyota hydrauic tensioner? (Allen wrenches sometimes bend under the pressure)
I was going to use a chain type vice grip to hold the crank hub while removing and torquing the balancer bolt. I don't have access to the special tool. What do you use to hold the crank hub/balancer?
Thanks again.
 
Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2860363
Girlina... also how quick was his BMW? that's pretty funny to hear as aftermarket support is pretty slim for them and VERY expensive for what you do get.
I was wondering the exact same thing...
Originally Posted by Rotarymagic

http:///forum/post/2860511
472cubes and only running 11s??? eek...
I ran mid 10s with my daily driver 283inch mod motor on a 150shot, pumpgas too...lol...
That's what I was thinking too...I ran into the 10's pretty easily with my Z06 with only a cam upgrade.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Originally Posted by LKGRenegade22
http:///forum/post/2862270
I was wondering the exact same thing...
That's what I was thinking too...I ran into the 10's pretty easily with my Z06 with only a cam upgrade.
exactly.. lol..
My car only made 383whp on motor, but it ran ok with the spray.. definitely geared for motor though.. I probably could have ran faster with less gear considering I was running through the traps above my nitrous powerband..
 
Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2862284
exactly.. lol..
My car only made 383whp on motor, but it ran ok with the spray.. definitely geared for motor though.. I probably could have ran faster with less gear considering I was running through the traps above my nitrous powerband..
Well the bad thing about the Z was when I went to the MS4 cam it really didn't make any power unless you were running it at high RPM's then it made crazy power. The made 365rwhp stock and 450rwhp after just the cam and exhaust. Then 540rwhp with great heads and a FAST intake and over 700rwhp on a 200 shot. The nitrous was a little much as it twisted the frame on slicks. All that was on a 2900lb car. There was a reason I couldn't keep parts under it.
I love the Whippled cobra now though. Well over 600rwhp with the blower and 800+ with the flip of a switch.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Originally Posted by LKGRenegade22
http:///forum/post/2862428
Well the bad thing about the Z was when I went to the MS4 cam it really didn't make any power unless you were running it at high RPM's then it made crazy power. The made 365rwhp stock and 450rwhp after just the cam and exhaust. Then 540rwhp with great heads and a FAST intake and over 700rwhp on a 200 shot. The nitrous was a little much as it twisted the frame on slicks. All that was on a 2900lb car. There was a reason I couldn't keep parts under it.
I love the Whippled cobra now though. Well over 600rwhp with the blower and 800+ with the flip of a switch.

please tell me you have subframe connectors on the cobra...
 
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