Hillary Clinton Plantation Speech

[scubadoo]

In case you missed it, the Democratic front runnerfor 2008 made this comment yesterday.....
Clinton's 'plantation' remark draws fire
Tuesday, January 17, 2006; Posted: 11:49 p.m. EST (04:49 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton drew criticism Tuesday for a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech in which she told a mostly black audience at a Harlem church that Republican leaders have run the House "like a plantation".
Do these folks actually read this garbage before they state it in a speech?

 

[ohioguy06]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
In case you missed it, the Democratic front runnerfor 2008 made this comment yesterday.....
Clinton's 'plantation' remark draws fire
Tuesday, January 17, 2006; Posted: 11:49 p.m. EST (04:49 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton drew criticism Tuesday for a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech in which she told a mostly black audience at a Harlem church that Republican leaders have run the House "like a plantation".
Do these folks actually read this garbage before they state it in a speech?
i can honestly say i dont think they do......... i was kinda appaled by her speech.

 

[ruaround]

Demographics... what would work in one part of the city, would not work in another... also gives a little insight on who... never mind thats another topic entirely!!!

 

[dogstar]

Didnt Gingrich say it first......

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
Didnt Gingrich say it first......
Wrong then and wrong now

 

[lovethesea]

I saw that on the news last night. :scared: I could not believe it. If it were a room full of caucasions, it would not have been said.
Lesson: Think before you talk

 

[darth tang]

I heard and read about it yesterday. I was shocked at first. Then I thought to myself, "Good, let her keep openning her mouth.".
This can only hurt her Presedency dreams than help.
I find the statement funny actually. The democratic party is the Affirmative action party...but if you do a comparrison between the two parties......they don't look it.

 

[ophiura]

Not only that, but it was a predominantly African American audience and it was something like "it is run like a plantation, and you know what that is like" or similar. I was shocked. But then I was also shocked that New Orleans will be "chocolate."
:notsure:
There is a double standard, IMO, on who can get away with saying some things. While I am finally hearing some somewhat negative comments (more along the lines of "no, its neopolitan - chocolate, vanilla and strawberry") I have a feeling if someone else (white - aka "vanilla" - or republican) it may not have been taken quite so easily.
Is it just me? I found both comments rather shocking, coming from anyone!!!

 

[darth tang]

The add on top of it Mayor Naggin of New Orleans made the comment about about "God destroying New Orleans to punish the U.S. for it's wrongs.
But when Pat Robertson made a similar statement it was criticized by the democrats.
Personally I disagree with both views.

 

[molamola]

I personally feel that Pat Robertson and Mayor Naggin should be appointed to a special Federal "Communications" Post, where it is their job to relay the messages of God to the American people. Without Robertson or Naggin's expert accounts of Heavenly activity, we would have been forced to accept the excuses of the Bush Administration.

 

[jones]

Originally Posted by ophiura
Not only that, but it was a predominantly African American audience and it was something like "it is run like a plantation, and you know what that is like" or similar.
Actually the quote was
"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about,"
And was followed up with
"It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."
It's pretty clear this remark was reffering to the cronyism, bullying, and intimidation abound in the House of Representatives which has been brought to public light on numerous accounts recently, with certain people being held accountable.
Rhetoric is used throughout society and especially in politics, rightly or wrongly, to drive home a certain point, or to grab peoples attention. While it may not have been the best choice of words, any argument that Hillary Clinton is racially insensitive is ridiculous, and it would be a very difficult task to try and paint that picture. While the statement does give some people the opportunity to jump on a non-issue with an obviously partisan agenda, I simply don't believe a single person who claims to have been personally offended by this statement.

 

[ohioguy06]

Originally Posted by jones
Actually the quote was
"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about,"
And was followed up with
"It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."
It's pretty clear this remark was reffering to the cronyism, bullying, and intimidation abound in the House of Representatives which has been brought to public light on numerous accounts recently, with certain people being held accountable.
Rhetoric is used throughout society and especially in politics, rightly or wrongly, to drive home a certain point, or to grab peoples attention. While it may not have been the best choice of words, any argument that Hillary Clinton is racially insensitive is ridiculous, and it would be a very difficult task to try and paint that picture. While the statement does give some people the opportunity to jump on a non-issue with an obviously partisan agenda, I simply don't believe a single person who claims to have been personally offended by this statement.
But couldnt she have found a better way to explain it rather than reffering to a "plantation"... Come on i personaly was not offended but some people may have taken it the wrong way and if people were offended by the statement i could see possibley why they were.

 

[jones]

I do agree that it wasn't the smartest choice of words. There would have been many many better ways to put it in my opinion.

 

[beth]

I don't think the comment was meant to be "racially insensitive", rather it was meant to incite blacks against conservative politicians reminding them that conservatives=big business who make their money off the backs of the poor [aka plantation owners who made their wealth off the backs of black slaves].
Politicians alway gamble when they make a speech. Will their slogans and propaganda help or hurt them?

 

[farmboy]

Beth nailed it. It was tailored to fit the audience. Maybe if she had been talking to a Jewish conference, she would have said, "THis House has been run like a concentration camp, and you know what I'm talking about." Outrageous.

 

[scubadoo]

At best...it demonstrates poor judgement, lack of respect, and seeks to exploit the hardships of the past to further an agenda.
We should expect better from ALL of our elected officials.

 

[tizzo]

Either way, maybe the audience knew what she was talking about, but she is acting as if SHE knew what she was talking about. She has never been one of the "backs of the poor" so it makes me sick to think she could understand the perspective enough to attempt to use it to gain their favor. Even the concentration camp you made reference to, I understand the logic, but how dare she even attempt to use the reference when she was never on the victim end. I know she didn't use that analagy, but if she did, it would make a lot of people mad.
Yeah, not a good choice of words, no matter how "well intended".

 

[scubadoo]

Per Larry Patterson.....Clinton ex-body guard
Hillary was no stranger to the "N" word either. He heard her say "n---" "probably six, eight, ten times. She would be upset with someone in the black community and she would use the 'N' word......

 

[tizzo]

Are you kidding me!! Even I don't say that word and I am a nobody trying to get the approval of nobody!!
Well, I guess it's all in how you were raised. I was raised to believe that was the ultimate of all cuss words, but we have some kids down the road who's parents have no qualms with their kids using those words. But they aren't allowed to even jokingly call each other "white crackers", go figure...

The N word, I am shocked!! That definately does not sit well in my rose colored world.

 

[lovethesea]

ugh....I can't stand that word. There are about 3 words I can't stand and thats one of them. And believe you me, I could probly cuss a sailor out of a bar on occaision. ***) :scared: The other 2 I won't mention, but they are probably tried and true here.
I don't care who said what whether it was the plantation reference....which was out of plain stupidity and media grabbing.....OR some public person using racial slurs in public or private (because their privacy is not really private...body guards,assistants etc.)