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usirchchris
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Originally Posted by manners
http:///forum/post/2924729
how many gallons do hippo tangs need????
I would go 125 minimum, they need room to move
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http:///forum/post/2924729
how many gallons do hippo tangs need????
I would go 125 minimum, they need room to move
baseballman 25
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An aquarium that is about 6 feet wide.
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by Baseballman 25
http:///forum/post/2924741
An aquarium that is about 6 feet wide.
+1
http:///forum/post/2924741
An aquarium that is about 6 feet wide.
+1
racin24fan
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I have had 2 hippo tangs and they are ick magnets.
ccampbell57
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if you have ever owned a regal tang for more than 4 years you would rethink your 90 gallon rule.
My regal is almost 10" now and would be very uncomfortable in a 90g.
They are not ich magnets. Ich is caused by uneducated aquarists that buy a fish and put it directly into the display. Proper quarantining will eliminate ich and other parasites and diseases.
Most if not all fish that you buy have ich (similar to the fact that all human stomachs contain ecoli and salmonila) but it never persists due to the fish's immune system.
Tangs like the regal and powder have a different scale pattern and therefore the ich has an easier time hosting the fish.
As for finding healthy regals? You give me any one that you find in the store (ich or not) and I am pretty sure that I could run it through my QT and have a beautifully happy fish in 6-8 weeks.
Speed kills in this hobby.
My regal is almost 10" now and would be very uncomfortable in a 90g.
They are not ich magnets. Ich is caused by uneducated aquarists that buy a fish and put it directly into the display. Proper quarantining will eliminate ich and other parasites and diseases.
Most if not all fish that you buy have ich (similar to the fact that all human stomachs contain ecoli and salmonila) but it never persists due to the fish's immune system.
Tangs like the regal and powder have a different scale pattern and therefore the ich has an easier time hosting the fish.
As for finding healthy regals? You give me any one that you find in the store (ich or not) and I am pretty sure that I could run it through my QT and have a beautifully happy fish in 6-8 weeks.
Speed kills in this hobby.
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by ccampbell57
http:///forum/post/2925602
They are not ich magnets. Ich is caused by uneducated aquarists that buy a fish and put it directly into the display. Proper quarantining will eliminate ich and other parasites and diseases.
Most if not all fish that you buy have ich (similar to the fact that all human stomachs contain ecoli and salmonila) but it never persists due to the fish's immune system.
Sorry, I don't pretend to know everything but I do know that there's no basis for comparison between a bacterium and a parasite!
ICH is a parasite which is almost never seen in the ocean but common to the aquarium industry. The reason it's so rare in the sea is that there is a critical 3 day period when the newly hatched ICH tormonts (or is it theronts, I always get the two stages confused) have three days to find a new fish host. If they can't find one, they die, no exceptions and it's a big ocean. It's the close proximity of aquarium fish which allow the critter to renew its life cycle since it can usually find a host.
I agree that the spread of ICH is usually due to improper QT procedures, but most fish don't have ICH in some sort of dormant stage. Once the theront finds a fish host it remains for a finite period before dropping to the substrate where it encysts itself until hatching new babies which swim looking for new fish. Fish that weaken and die from ICH do so because they're constantly being reinfected with new parasites every 39 days.
http:///forum/post/2925602
They are not ich magnets. Ich is caused by uneducated aquarists that buy a fish and put it directly into the display. Proper quarantining will eliminate ich and other parasites and diseases.
Most if not all fish that you buy have ich (similar to the fact that all human stomachs contain ecoli and salmonila) but it never persists due to the fish's immune system.
Sorry, I don't pretend to know everything but I do know that there's no basis for comparison between a bacterium and a parasite!
ICH is a parasite which is almost never seen in the ocean but common to the aquarium industry. The reason it's so rare in the sea is that there is a critical 3 day period when the newly hatched ICH tormonts (or is it theronts, I always get the two stages confused) have three days to find a new fish host. If they can't find one, they die, no exceptions and it's a big ocean. It's the close proximity of aquarium fish which allow the critter to renew its life cycle since it can usually find a host.
I agree that the spread of ICH is usually due to improper QT procedures, but most fish don't have ICH in some sort of dormant stage. Once the theront finds a fish host it remains for a finite period before dropping to the substrate where it encysts itself until hatching new babies which swim looking for new fish. Fish that weaken and die from ICH do so because they're constantly being reinfected with new parasites every 39 days.
crimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2925479
I don't really agree with the 6 feet wide tank theory. I would say 4 feet wide... but a 55 gallon can be 4 feet wide and a bit too small. I have a 90 -- and wouldn't hesitate to put one in. I do agree they are ich magnets and tough to find a healthy one though.
Originally Posted by ccampbell57
http:///forum/post/2925602
if you have ever owned a regal tang for more than 4 years you would rethink your 90 gallon rule.
My regal is almost 10" now and would be very uncomfortable in a 90g.
A hippo would be ok in a 90 gallon for several years, however ccampbell is right, I would not consider putting a tang larger than 6-7" in a 4 ft tank.
http:///forum/post/2925479
I don't really agree with the 6 feet wide tank theory. I would say 4 feet wide... but a 55 gallon can be 4 feet wide and a bit too small. I have a 90 -- and wouldn't hesitate to put one in. I do agree they are ich magnets and tough to find a healthy one though.
Originally Posted by ccampbell57
http:///forum/post/2925602
if you have ever owned a regal tang for more than 4 years you would rethink your 90 gallon rule.
My regal is almost 10" now and would be very uncomfortable in a 90g.
A hippo would be ok in a 90 gallon for several years, however ccampbell is right, I would not consider putting a tang larger than 6-7" in a 4 ft tank.
srfisher17
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Originally Posted by Racin24fan
http:///forum/post/2925462
I have had 2 hippo tangs and they are ick magnets.
If you treat them with copper in QT and put them into an ich free tank; then do the same with all new fish---you'll never see ich. Ich, contrary to some opinion, does not appear out of thin air.
http:///forum/post/2925462
I have had 2 hippo tangs and they are ick magnets.
If you treat them with copper in QT and put them into an ich free tank; then do the same with all new fish---you'll never see ich. Ich, contrary to some opinion, does not appear out of thin air.
yummysalt
Member
Originally Posted by Baseballman 25
http:///forum/post/2924741
An aquarium that is about 6 feet wide.
Originally Posted by Calvertbill
http:///forum/post/2925082
+1
Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2925479
I don't really agree with the 6 feet wide tank theory. I would say 4 feet wide... but a 55 gallon can be 4 feet wide and a bit too small. I have a 90 -- and wouldn't hesitate to put one in. I do agree they are ich magnets and tough to find a healthy one though.
I'm pretty sure you guys ment "Long" and not wide. A 6 feet wide tank is pretty wide. Heck if I can have a 8 feet long by 6 feet wide, it will be cool.
http:///forum/post/2924741
An aquarium that is about 6 feet wide.
Originally Posted by Calvertbill
http:///forum/post/2925082
+1
Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2925479
I don't really agree with the 6 feet wide tank theory. I would say 4 feet wide... but a 55 gallon can be 4 feet wide and a bit too small. I have a 90 -- and wouldn't hesitate to put one in. I do agree they are ich magnets and tough to find a healthy one though.
I'm pretty sure you guys ment "Long" and not wide. A 6 feet wide tank is pretty wide. Heck if I can have a 8 feet long by 6 feet wide, it will be cool.
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by YummySalt
http:///forum/post/2927857
I'm pretty sure you guys ment "Long" and not wide. A 6 feet wide tank is pretty wide. Heck if I can have a 8 feet long by 6 feet wide, it will be cool.
I agree, I just went with the flow, but what you're describing sounds like the new tank I'm planning to replace the wall between my bedroom and my home office. The main part of the tank is 6'x14'x2.5'H with two wings 8x2. Since the tank can be viewed from either side, I want to put all the overflows and main pump returns in an island of rockwork (puddled cement) in the center. The display clocks in at 2175 gals. With the lines, sumps, skimmers, holding/RODI-salt mixing tank the whole system should take about 2600 gallons.
This is just a crude sketch.
P.S. This will give my Tangs room to grow!
http:///forum/post/2927857
I'm pretty sure you guys ment "Long" and not wide. A 6 feet wide tank is pretty wide. Heck if I can have a 8 feet long by 6 feet wide, it will be cool.
I agree, I just went with the flow, but what you're describing sounds like the new tank I'm planning to replace the wall between my bedroom and my home office. The main part of the tank is 6'x14'x2.5'H with two wings 8x2. Since the tank can be viewed from either side, I want to put all the overflows and main pump returns in an island of rockwork (puddled cement) in the center. The display clocks in at 2175 gals. With the lines, sumps, skimmers, holding/RODI-salt mixing tank the whole system should take about 2600 gallons.
This is just a crude sketch.
P.S. This will give my Tangs room to grow!
aquaknight
Active Member
You nailed one of the more debated topics. IMO I wouldn't keep one in my 125gal, based on their swimming patterns. To compare, I do have a Naso in my 125, which most will tell you is quite cramped (and would never recommend), but after studying the way the fish swims, I felt better with a Naso then a Hippo. The Naso is a much more deliberate, 'cruiser' so to speak, as where a Hippo tang generally swims 'excitedly.' Much more sporadically, franatic, and usually at a much faster clip. The Naso will eventually dwarf the Hippo, so I'll be looking for a new tank in a bit.
yummysalt
Member
Originally Posted by Calvertbill
http:///forum/post/2927994
I agree, I just went with the flow, but what you're describing sounds like the new tank I'm planning to replace the wall between my bedroom and my home office. The main part of the tank is 6'x14'x2.5'H with two wings 8x2. Since the tank can be viewed from either side, I want to put all the overflows and main pump returns in an island of rockwork (puddled cement) in the center. The display clocks in at 2175 gals. With the lines, sumps, skimmers, holding/RODI-salt mixing tank the whole system should take about 2600 gallons.
This is just a crude sketch.
P.S. This will give my Tangs room to grow!
Way nice, I hope you stick with your plan so I can see this beast when in action.
Back to the subject, right now I have a sailfin and a yellow in my 220. It is only 6 feet long. Sometimes(all the time) I feel that it isn't enough room, but I do agree that 6feet foot print sounds like a good start for a Hippo.
http:///forum/post/2927994
I agree, I just went with the flow, but what you're describing sounds like the new tank I'm planning to replace the wall between my bedroom and my home office. The main part of the tank is 6'x14'x2.5'H with two wings 8x2. Since the tank can be viewed from either side, I want to put all the overflows and main pump returns in an island of rockwork (puddled cement) in the center. The display clocks in at 2175 gals. With the lines, sumps, skimmers, holding/RODI-salt mixing tank the whole system should take about 2600 gallons.
This is just a crude sketch.
P.S. This will give my Tangs room to grow!
Way nice, I hope you stick with your plan so I can see this beast when in action.
Back to the subject, right now I have a sailfin and a yellow in my 220. It is only 6 feet long. Sometimes(all the time) I feel that it isn't enough room, but I do agree that 6feet foot print sounds like a good start for a Hippo.
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calvertbill
Guest
Lebensraum for Tangs. If this isn't the most frequent topic on these boards it certainly hits the top 5 list!
In the fifteen months I've been involved with this hobby and this website I've seen many questions, opinions, and answers posted over and over again but just recently on another thread I saw someone post something I'd never seen before.
Rather than approach the subject from the point of view of absolute body size he diferentiated Tangs by "cruising speed".
Most fish can book when a fright response has set in but in their normal, day-to-day life they set their cruise control at different speeds. A Naso or an Achilles, for example, cruises around the tank foraging at speeds barely above an idle and Yellows cover more ground at higher speeds. I've often seen a Yellow zip past a potential morsel and turn around to retrieve it.
My tank is 10' long and my limited sample includes Yellows, Purple, Desjardinii, Sailfin, and Hippos. Based on this restricted list there is no doubt in my mind that the Hippos cover more miles per day than any of the others.
This is admittedly a subjective impression. I've never sat for an entire day counting laps and my Radar gun's out in the barn with the rest of the baseball equipment. Perhaps it's something to think about though.
In the fifteen months I've been involved with this hobby and this website I've seen many questions, opinions, and answers posted over and over again but just recently on another thread I saw someone post something I'd never seen before.
Rather than approach the subject from the point of view of absolute body size he diferentiated Tangs by "cruising speed".
Most fish can book when a fright response has set in but in their normal, day-to-day life they set their cruise control at different speeds. A Naso or an Achilles, for example, cruises around the tank foraging at speeds barely above an idle and Yellows cover more ground at higher speeds. I've often seen a Yellow zip past a potential morsel and turn around to retrieve it.
My tank is 10' long and my limited sample includes Yellows, Purple, Desjardinii, Sailfin, and Hippos. Based on this restricted list there is no doubt in my mind that the Hippos cover more miles per day than any of the others.
This is admittedly a subjective impression. I've never sat for an entire day counting laps and my Radar gun's out in the barn with the rest of the baseball equipment. Perhaps it's something to think about though.