History and Barak Obama

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2815519
Yeah, and what do you know about socialism? Let me ask you a question, say that you and a fellow co-worker have the same job, but you do extra "jobs"(sweep,clean,etc.) and your fellow co-worker takes a smoke break every 25 minutes and sits on his butt all day. Because of his behavior he gets paid minimum wage($8.22) but you get paid say, $28 an hour(a great pay). Since your fellow co-worker is so "poor", how would you like it if Senator Obama takes $3 of your pay an hour that you worked so hard for and gives it to your "poor" co-worker so he can get his lazy butt through life. Well, enjoy Obama! So, after a while, the middle class will start to disappear slowly, not what I want to happen.
I'm confused, are you being sarcastic?
I think you just described socialism well. That lazy bum got $3 of my money for doing nothing, while I got penalized for working hard. I'd be stupid to continue to work when I can do the same. Now we're both making $11.22 for doing half the work and they have to hire 2 more at $11.22 to get the whole job done. So by your example it now costs about $44.88/ hour to do the job I could have done for $28. See how well socialism works?
OUr current tax system works in the same way. I worked hard in highschool, college medical school and residency to make a good living. Because I work hard, I support many people who add little to the community. The harder I work, the more tax I'm paying and at a higher rate than those not producing.
 

jmick

Active Member
Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2815505
I just may be. But I know 100%, I am a hell of alot smarter and know more about politics than you. And what are you trying to say; do you snort cocaine too.
Uh oh, looks as if I have awakened an intellectual juggernaut--it's time to run for the hills
In all seriousness, your ability to parrot right wing radio talking points does little to prove your keen political observations. Like Obama or not, the man is not an idiot as you have claimed.
I would like to make a serious point here. I think people need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. I will not put words in Obama's mouth and claim he didn't make some of the statements or meant something else. As far as I am concerned he was pandering to certain segments of the population to increase voter turnout. I've said it before and I will say it again, if he does win the election he will not do anything overtly radical because he will have aspirations to stay in office for a second term. He will not take away anyone's guns, he will not force mandatory abortions, will not cut the military to an extent that harm our national security and he may tax the rich at a slightly higher rate, but they should get by.
If I had my way, I'd probably want to leave everyone’s taxes where they are right now. Instead, I'd tax gambling/gaming at higher lvls, make prostitution legal in certain areas and tax the hell out of it, higher taxes on companies that emit pollution or let them buy tax credits if they want to emit more and legalize marijuana and tax it. This will only work if they are able to do away/cut expenditures on some programs that are either over funded, mismanaged or a waste of money.
 

groupergenius

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2815481
youre wrong...
see that horse is dead... and that dude is gonna use that bat to beat that dead horse... which is very pointless...
much like ALL of these political threads...
Oh, that does make a lot more sense.
 

tang master

Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2815542
I'm confused, are you being sarcastic?
I think you just described socialism well. That lazy bum got $3 of my money for doing nothing, while I got penalized for working hard. I'd be stupid to continue to work when I can do the same. Now we're both making $11.22 for doing half the work and they have to hire 2 more at $11.22 to get the whole job done. So by your example it now costs about $44.88/ hour to do the job I could have done for $28. See how well socialism works?
OUr current tax system works in the same way. I worked hard in highschool, college medical school and residency to make a good living. Because I work hard, I support many people who add little to the community. The harder I work, the more tax I'm paying and at a higher rate than those not producing.
Yeah sure, but do you think the boss will want to hire 2 more workers and spend more money or fire your lazy butt and hire a worker for what he was gonna pay you to work hard.
 

tang master

Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2815537
Let me guess, you're the "poor" co-worker.

Are you really that pathetic to where you have to say something dumb and thoughtless as that. Yeah, pretty typical, an Obama supporter who acts like a little kid and knows nothing about politics.
 
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