How can any fish lover approve of off shore drilling?

dogfaceman

dogfaceman

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I hear a lot of people here, are voting for mccain, and i dont know if you approve of this or not but im just curious if you guys actually want us to drill offshore because these things do "leak" and can destroy wildlife.
so do you guys approve of it?
 
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alexmir

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collecting coral and fish out of the tropics also destroys wildlife. So does driving cars, and killing animals for food. So if it benefits us that much, go for it!!! Also, alot of rigs will be in the gulf of mexico, and its already nasty out here, oil deposits on the beach, doesnt seem to bbother the wildlife much
 
pontius

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clearing land to build houses also kills wildlife. I sure hope the thread starter sleeps outdoors under the stars, or this whole thing would be kind of hypocritical.
 
reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2754930
clearing land to build houses also kills wildlife. I sure hope the thread starter sleeps outdoors under the stars, or this whole thing would be kind of hypocritical.
Does he/she know how many toxic commpounds that can poison the environment go into one computer moniter?? coper, lead, and cadmium oh my!

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flame over
come on, there is a difference between sloppy irresponsible, well, anything, and doing a job responsibly. like computer moniters as mentioned above, they contain a couple toxins that are just plain bad when handled improperly. responsibility is key. you have to think oil=gold+. right now you can be sure every oil company is doing their best not to waste a sinlge drop.
pot VS kettle, which one is black?
 
slomo

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We drill in the Gulf of Mexico and the last time i was in Mexico diving, there were oil slicks everywhere
 
salty blues

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2754798
I hear a lot of people here, are voting for mccain, and i dont know if you approve of this or not but im just curious if you guys actually want us to drill offshore because these things do "leak" and can destroy wildlife.
so do you guys approve of it?
In case your not aware, we already drill offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. If everyone who is against drilling suddenly had to do without all the many products(not just gasolene)that we make from crude oil, I suspect they would be squealing like pigs.
Yes, we need to be drilling any and every place we can in this country. Our national security depends upon it.
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2754930
clearing land to build houses also kills wildlife. I sure hope the thread starter sleeps outdoors under the stars, or this whole thing would be kind of hypocritical.
i now can say i have to agree with pontius

almost self serving
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by slomo
http:///forum/post/2754944
We drill in the Gulf of Mexico and the last time i was in Mexico diving, there were oil slicks everywhere
hhmmm i dive cozamel, cancun, cancun beach all around mexico and have never seen a slick or wild life suffering.
not saying your wrong just never seen and have dove to many time to count in mexico
 
geoj

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Earth first we will drill the other planets later.
By the way do your part plant a tree...
 
defcon11

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Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2755007
Yes, we need to be drilling any and every place we can in this country. Our national security depends upon it.
I'm not so sure about that.
The oil drilled domestically does not stay here. It gets traded on the world market, where it just disappears into that vast black pool of petro. Plus, aren't the oil companies saying that domestically we can't process anymore oil since our refineries are running at 100% capacity. Now we have price gouging at the pumps and instability in the flow of production because a storm is hitting. Why did they choose to build most of their refineries in "hurricane alley"? Why haven't they spent the billions of dollars in profit they've made the last several years on building refineries further inland instead of spending it on political campaigns? Why haven't they helped invest in better railways to quickly transport oil from port to the refineries, and from the refineries to distribution spots over the country? Why haven't they fully explored the land they have already been given for oil extraction?
We need to look at this problem from an economic view not a political one. We need to look at what is abundant in our country and refine the technology to extract the energy cleanly, efficiently, and safely. Wind turbines have become much more efficient over the years. The mid west is our bread basket for food, well it can also be the country's energy bread basket. Coal is abundant in the appalachian mountains (oldest mountains in the world), my home. There are cleaner ways to burn coal and recycle coal waste to be used again. Landfills release enough methane gas daily to fuel all of the nations garbage trucks, if properly refitted; and if you don't believe me ask anyone who has lived near a landfill. You can see it burning at night.
We put a man on the moon in 9 years. Brazil switched all of their nations automobiles to ethanol in under 5. Why suddenly is it so hard for us to achieve any substantial goals anymore? We as a nation always set goals 15, 20 years down the road, when no one will care about them or remember them.
Well that time needs to end soon, and I don't think we're going to find it at the tip of a drill.
 
geoj

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Defcon11 we are doing and will do as you mentioned. But there is no sense in handy capping are selves we do and can drill cleanly. When an airplane crashes do we stop flying no we build a better airplane.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2754798
I hear a lot of people here, are voting for mccain, and i dont know if you approve of this or not but im just curious if you guys actually want us to drill offshore because these things do "leak" and can destroy wildlife.
so do you guys approve of it?
Oil rigs provide great artificial reef habitat...
 
dogfaceman

dogfaceman

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2755098
Oil rigs provide great artificial reef habitat...
yeah but spills do happen. im just saying we can get through the next few years without drilling and try to get alternative source of energy. but i dont think we should tap in to the oil reserves because we need that for the military(not the war in iraq
), just incase something happens. anyways ive seen hands on what oil spills do to wild life, we need to find a cheaper and cleaner alternative not only for the usa but for the world, i heard once, that if we took all the cars off of the roads in the usa it wouldnt matter once india gets cars.
 
socal57che

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2755098
Oil rigs provide great artificial reef habitat...
We toured (sorta) a sunken ship in Hawaii that was part of the artificial reef they were working on. It did not sink there, but was dragged into the sea. I'm all for building reefs, so let's drill for some crude! Jed Clampet would be proud.
 
reefraff

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Run off from coastal cities dumps more petroleum products in the ocean than off shore drilling. The largest single cause on oil entering the worlds ocean? NATURAL SEEPS. And guess what, drilling in an area with seeps reduces the underground pressure which leads to a decline in the seeps. I am way OK with drilling. Just keep it away from the reefs. Like journey said it does make nice artificial habitat for fishes. Look at what the Alaskan pipeline did for the Caribou population after all the dire warnings about it decimating the herds.
 
jaymz

jaymz

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The faster we suck the earth dry of oil the quicker we can move on. You can slow down drilling but its going to happen eventually so just perforate the earth until its empty then we can finally stop having crappy plastic disposable products and actually buy quality products that last. we can stop fighting over it. Heck what would the middle east do with them selves if there was no oil to fight over, maybe just go back to persicuting each other instead of the rest of the earth..and so on...
 
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