How high is ammonia before you dose with meds besides doing a water change?
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meowzer
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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3104735
Meds? I'm not sure I understand the question.
I think she means use...Prime or Amquel+ to detoxify the ammonia
http:///forum/post/3104735
Meds? I'm not sure I understand the question.
I think she means use...Prime or Amquel+ to detoxify the ammonia
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3104735
Meds? I'm not sure I understand the question.
Sorry...I call any additive a medication.. (meds)
There are neutralizers people use to try and bring down ammonia...I have always just done a water change..never had ammonia over .25 but some have been advising that any ammonia should be treated...I don't know the name of the stuff but it messes with PH...which I thought was just adding to the problem.
http:///forum/post/3104735
Meds? I'm not sure I understand the question.
Sorry...I call any additive a medication.. (meds)
There are neutralizers people use to try and bring down ammonia...I have always just done a water change..never had ammonia over .25 but some have been advising that any ammonia should be treated...I don't know the name of the stuff but it messes with PH...which I thought was just adding to the problem.
spanko
Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3104745
Sorry...I call any additive a medication.. (meds)
There are neutralizers people use to try and bring down ammonia...I have always just done a water change..never had ammonia over .25 but some have been advising that any ammonia should be treated...I don't know the name of the stuff but it messes with PH...which I thought was just adding to the problem.
My question is why are you getting ammonia? Overfeeding, too large a bioload, not enough rockwork for biofiltration bacteria etc. etc?
http:///forum/post/3104745
Sorry...I call any additive a medication.. (meds)
There are neutralizers people use to try and bring down ammonia...I have always just done a water change..never had ammonia over .25 but some have been advising that any ammonia should be treated...I don't know the name of the stuff but it messes with PH...which I thought was just adding to the problem.
My question is why are you getting ammonia? Overfeeding, too large a bioload, not enough rockwork for biofiltration bacteria etc. etc?
florida joe
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not enough rockwork for biofiltration bacteria etc. etc?
With all do respect to my good friend Henry, you dont need any rockwork for nitrification To be adequate
With all do respect to my good friend Henry, you dont need any rockwork for nitrification To be adequate
spanko
Active Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3104762
With all do respect to my good friend Henry, you dont need any rockwork for nitrification To be adequate
Not enough surface area in the tank, filters, sumps, etc. etc. to allow adequate nitrification bacteria population to exist for the amount of ammonia being produced??????
Better Joe?
http:///forum/post/3104762
With all do respect to my good friend Henry, you dont need any rockwork for nitrification To be adequate
Not enough surface area in the tank, filters, sumps, etc. etc. to allow adequate nitrification bacteria population to exist for the amount of ammonia being produced??????
Better Joe?
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3104764
Not enough surface area in the tank, filters, sumps, etc. etc. to allow adequate nitrification bacteria population to exist for the amount of ammonia being produced??????
Better Joe?
Sorry did not take into consideration the etc. etc. in post #6
http:///forum/post/3104764
Not enough surface area in the tank, filters, sumps, etc. etc. to allow adequate nitrification bacteria population to exist for the amount of ammonia being produced??????
Better Joe?
meowzer
Moderator
OK...Here's the deal...the question is not cause Flower has ammonia...this is a question because of all the different answers received pertaining to ammonia...
I have always heard that ANY trace of ammonia is bad
Flower believes that ammonia over .50 is bad, and below that not to worry
SOOOO...she wants to get more information on what people think or know about ammonia levels....
I have always heard that ANY trace of ammonia is bad
Flower believes that ammonia over .50 is bad, and below that not to worry
SOOOO...she wants to get more information on what people think or know about ammonia levels....
cranberry
Active Member
If it shows up as 0.25, I'll change some water and retest. If it now negative, I'll retest in the morning. If the fish are gilling at 0.25 or are acting a little skiddish... I'll change water and add Ultimate.
The next value on my test kit is 1.5. So if it's above 0.25 I am definitely adding a conditioner or removing the fish altogether.
The next value on my test kit is 1.5. So if it's above 0.25 I am definitely adding a conditioner or removing the fish altogether.
- Change water only = 0.25 with asymptomatic fish.
- Change water and add conditioner = 0.25 with symptomatic fish.
Change water, add water conditioner and possibly remove fish = next colour up (1.5 on my test kit).
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3104771
OK...Here's the deal...the question is not cause Flower has ammonia...this is a question because of all the different answers received pertaining to ammonia...
I have always heard that ANY trace of ammonia is bad
Flower believes that ammonia over .50 is bad, and below that not to worry
SOOOO...she wants to get more information on what people think or know about ammonia levels....
Exactly!! Your great Meowzer...I just logged on...busy day...looks like .25 and over ...it is 100% so far, not a single different answer. I did have..(6 months ago at least) an ammonia spike of .25 I was so upset.
I was told at that time .25 was like nothing to stop freaking out...I had done 4 major water changes (30%) in 4 days trying to fix the problem. Now this was when I was lugging water in 5g jugs to the house from wal-mart for my 90g. I was exhausted.
I had never even heard of dosing the tank with anything to fix ammonia...But folks on the site were. Then it seemed that they had trouble with PH levels, which seemed worse than the .25 ammonia spike they were concerned about.
I wanted something we could reference concerning when to dose and when not to worry, just do a water change. So that is the story behind my little poll.
Cranberry...You are so precise...your answer is exactly what we all needed. Now we have a guide line to follow..and I learned how to take an opinion poll
http:///forum/post/3104771
OK...Here's the deal...the question is not cause Flower has ammonia...this is a question because of all the different answers received pertaining to ammonia...
I have always heard that ANY trace of ammonia is bad
Flower believes that ammonia over .50 is bad, and below that not to worry
SOOOO...she wants to get more information on what people think or know about ammonia levels....
Exactly!! Your great Meowzer...I just logged on...busy day...looks like .25 and over ...it is 100% so far, not a single different answer. I did have..(6 months ago at least) an ammonia spike of .25 I was so upset.
I was told at that time .25 was like nothing to stop freaking out...I had done 4 major water changes (30%) in 4 days trying to fix the problem. Now this was when I was lugging water in 5g jugs to the house from wal-mart for my 90g. I was exhausted.
I had never even heard of dosing the tank with anything to fix ammonia...But folks on the site were. Then it seemed that they had trouble with PH levels, which seemed worse than the .25 ammonia spike they were concerned about.
I wanted something we could reference concerning when to dose and when not to worry, just do a water change. So that is the story behind my little poll.
Cranberry...You are so precise...your answer is exactly what we all needed. Now we have a guide line to follow..and I learned how to take an opinion poll