puffer24/7
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tha bom it takes no where near that long buddy check ur facts
How long to become 'Live' rock?
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fishieness
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Originally Posted by puffer24/7
tha bom it takes no where near that long buddy check ur facts
bacteria does grow fast, but not that fast. Just because it has coraline on it, doesnt mean that it has bacteria on it.
tha bom it takes no where near that long buddy check ur facts
bacteria does grow fast, but not that fast. Just because it has coraline on it, doesnt mean that it has bacteria on it.
puffer24/7
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huh coraline is a form of bacteria is it not?
fishieness
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Originally Posted by puffer24/7
huh coraline is a form of bacteria is it not?
no.... it is not...... and if it were it is not the kind that breaks down organic solvents. Coraline is a form of algae...... that is why it is called coraline algae :happyfish
huh coraline is a form of bacteria is it not?
no.... it is not...... and if it were it is not the kind that breaks down organic solvents. Coraline is a form of algae...... that is why it is called coraline algae :happyfish
puffer24/7
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no way its algae get outa here
puffer24/7
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and coraline is algae trust me
thangbom
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umm u lost me on cheacking my facts.. cuzz i could of sworn i said 1/2 of what u said.. anyhow.... i dont need written down fact to prove my statments... i have the prrof in my tank... altho i seeded my DIY rock via ocean.. but still.. a good established tank will be just as good or not better...
( all i have to say is that i know what im doing ..... i wouldnt trust over $500 in fish unless i did)
( all i have to say is that i know what im doing ..... i wouldnt trust over $500 in fish unless i did)
fishieness
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Originally Posted by puffer24/7
and coraline is algae trust me
what are you talking about? you jsut contradicted yourself. Either that or your being sarcastic....something that cant be read via typing.
and coraline is algae trust me
what are you talking about? you jsut contradicted yourself. Either that or your being sarcastic....something that cant be read via typing.
zman1
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I would have to agree with the combined posts of these two - fishieness and ThaNgBom.
Coralline Algae doesn't alone define LR. Your definition may be different, but mine would also include Aerobic and Anaerobic bacteria the true filtration and one most important advantage of LR followed by buffering. This doesn't require light as the Algae does. How long does it take? Good question! What I am typing next is IMO and not from any Marine Biology degree. Aerobic, the same time it would take to cycle a new tank, 3-8 weeks (too many factors to consider), then some time after that for Anaerobic. I wouldn't think it to be out of the question for base rock to become complete fully functional LR for at least 4-6 months with LR already in the system. Again, too many system factors to put a specific time table on, but I believe it would be months not weeks.
Coralline Algae doesn't alone define LR. Your definition may be different, but mine would also include Aerobic and Anaerobic bacteria the true filtration and one most important advantage of LR followed by buffering. This doesn't require light as the Algae does. How long does it take? Good question! What I am typing next is IMO and not from any Marine Biology degree. Aerobic, the same time it would take to cycle a new tank, 3-8 weeks (too many factors to consider), then some time after that for Anaerobic. I wouldn't think it to be out of the question for base rock to become complete fully functional LR for at least 4-6 months with LR already in the system. Again, too many system factors to put a specific time table on, but I believe it would be months not weeks.
dragonboy
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Yeah if you break down to all the factors of what a LR is then yeah for it to become a real live rock it will take months for the bacteria's. Coralline maybe not be algae but it still a form of something being alive. Maybe they should call it Bacteria Rock instead hehe......
zman1
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Originally Posted by dragonboy
Yeah if you break down to all the factors of what a LR is then yeah for it to become a real live rock it will take months for the bacteria's. Coralline maybe not be algae but it still a form of something being alive. Maybe they should call it Bacteria Rock instead hehe......
Coralline (Corallinales, calcareous/coralline algea) = is defined as ALGAE in everything I have read. There are debates on systematic classifications, orders (AKA science). However, I have never heard it debated as not being an algae..... I am not saying you're incorrect, but if you could direct me to your readings, I would be interested in other views.
Sorry Dragonboy this was really meant for Puffer24/7...
Yeah if you break down to all the factors of what a LR is then yeah for it to become a real live rock it will take months for the bacteria's. Coralline maybe not be algae but it still a form of something being alive. Maybe they should call it Bacteria Rock instead hehe......
Coralline (Corallinales, calcareous/coralline algea) = is defined as ALGAE in everything I have read. There are debates on systematic classifications, orders (AKA science). However, I have never heard it debated as not being an algae..... I am not saying you're incorrect, but if you could direct me to your readings, I would be interested in other views.
Sorry Dragonboy this was really meant for Puffer24/7...
ams153
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Originally Posted by Tormented
How long does it take for plain rocks to become live rocks when placed in a tank with normal live rocks?
Someone said several months but was kind of vague.
my oppinion let it become live naturally im sure itd be better for your tank in the long run.. why add all kinds of crap that doesnt need to be there..? itd take a while longer maybe but who cares.. and you cant really say how long till regular rock is live it depends on your system that you have.. but i really wouldnt add anything to your tank that doesnt need to be there just my oppnion
How long does it take for plain rocks to become live rocks when placed in a tank with normal live rocks?
my oppinion let it become live naturally im sure itd be better for your tank in the long run.. why add all kinds of crap that doesnt need to be there..? itd take a while longer maybe but who cares.. and you cant really say how long till regular rock is live it depends on your system that you have.. but i really wouldnt add anything to your tank that doesnt need to be there just my oppnion
ams153
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it seems to me like puffer24/7 is trying to boost his post count.. its very obvious actually and hes giving bad information to do that i disagree with most everything he says and imo his advise isnt to be trusted unless someone else says the same thing again just my oppinion
dragonboy
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Originally Posted by zman1
Coralline (Corallinales, calcareous/coralline algea) = is defined as ALGAE in everything I have read. There are debates on systematic classifications, orders (AKA science). However, I have never heard it debated as not being an algae..... I am not saying you're incorrect, but if you could direct me to your readings, I would be interested in other views.
Sorry Dragonboy this was really meant for Puffer24/7...
Opps my bad I meant say even though its an algae it is some form of a living thing.
Coralline (Corallinales, calcareous/coralline algea) = is defined as ALGAE in everything I have read. There are debates on systematic classifications, orders (AKA science). However, I have never heard it debated as not being an algae..... I am not saying you're incorrect, but if you could direct me to your readings, I would be interested in other views.
Sorry Dragonboy this was really meant for Puffer24/7...
Opps my bad I meant say even though its an algae it is some form of a living thing.
fishieness
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Originally Posted by ams153
it seems to me like puffer24/7 is trying to boost his post count.. its very obvious actually and hes giving bad information to do that i disagree with most everything he says and imo his advise isnt to be trusted unless someone else says the same thing again just my oppinion
haha.... i didnt want to be that blunt about it.
but yes, it does depend on the system, that is why a periode of several months is given
lets just say this...... does it take a few months? yes.... it is worth saving the 6 bucks a pound? IMO, as long as you already have some live rock, yes
it seems to me like puffer24/7 is trying to boost his post count.. its very obvious actually and hes giving bad information to do that i disagree with most everything he says and imo his advise isnt to be trusted unless someone else says the same thing again just my oppinion
haha.... i didnt want to be that blunt about it.
but yes, it does depend on the system, that is why a periode of several months is given
lets just say this...... does it take a few months? yes.... it is worth saving the 6 bucks a pound? IMO, as long as you already have some live rock, yes
fishieness
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truthfully, IMO, there is no difference between the quality of the rock you have. some just has different types of creatures on it. it all is covered in the same types of bacteria. comes from the same body of water. as long is it is cured and is in your tank it will have the same affect.
ktsdad
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We set up our 250 6 weeks ago.
I put in 125lbs of landscaping lava rock (dead by all definitions), 50lbs of DIY rock (dead by all definitions) and 100lbs of live rock from my reef tank and fowler.
After 2 weeks any piece of rock that the lights hit, was turning purple!
6 weeks later, all the red lava rock and gray DIY rock is purple (again, the sides that have lights).
Would I consider it "live" rock yet? NO - simply because it would not be able to act as a biological filtration device - yet!
I put in 125lbs of landscaping lava rock (dead by all definitions), 50lbs of DIY rock (dead by all definitions) and 100lbs of live rock from my reef tank and fowler.
After 2 weeks any piece of rock that the lights hit, was turning purple!
6 weeks later, all the red lava rock and gray DIY rock is purple (again, the sides that have lights).
Would I consider it "live" rock yet? NO - simply because it would not be able to act as a biological filtration device - yet!
tormented
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Originally Posted by ktsdad
We set up our 250 6 weeks ago.
I put in 125lbs of landscaping lava rock (dead by all definitions),
Lava rocks are ok? Ive got this one reddish lava rock, or at least I think it is. Any ideas if its safe to put in tank? I used to use it in a frshwater tank several years ago.
We set up our 250 6 weeks ago.
I put in 125lbs of landscaping lava rock (dead by all definitions),
Lava rocks are ok? Ive got this one reddish lava rock, or at least I think it is. Any ideas if its safe to put in tank? I used to use it in a frshwater tank several years ago.