How to setup connection between 2 tanks

My sump is actually going behind my DT. I am going to have the overflow to the right going straight down to sump and then on the opposite side the water pump going back to the DT (similar to yours). So i literally glue pvc togehter... that seems a little iffy aka flood? do they sell ones that

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together to make it air tight? But other than that, what should all go in the sump? substrate? bioballs? obviously skimmer, heater, filter, etc, but what about live rock and other stuff?
 

scotts

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Scrap, I hope I helped you out, that is cool if I did. One other thing I would recommend that your sump not sit directly on your hardwood floor.
Kevin. So your sump will be behind your DT. Will it be at a lowever level than your tank? I am just thinking about the gravity flow of your overflow from your tank to your sump.
Yes they do sell PVC that scr ews together. But these connectors are actually more prone to leaking. You have to use teflon tape, the threads have to be tightened down enough, then if there is any stress on your pipes the threaded connectors are physically weaker than the glued connectors. There is a type of connector that you could use called a union. Google PVC union and check them out.
The gluing of the fittings is easy, when you get used to it. Clean the inside of the fitting with the primer, the outside of the piw with the primer. Smear the glue on the same places and slip the pipe inside the fittings. Give both a twist to to make sure the glues is all over and then let it sit for an hour or more and you will have a waterproof connection.
As far as what goes in your sump, that can be as varied as what goes in your tank. I personally have some LR, some cheato, some LS, my skimmer, heater and sometimes a HOB filter. Others may have other equipment and baffles like ameno was talking about. You do not want bioballs in your sump, those go in a wetdry filter which is a different type of filtration.
 
My sump will be below my DT sitting on carpeted floor.
Once I buy some pvc I will work with it and talk to you about and I am sure I will make the right decisions... Thanks again. Ill keep you posted on when I start getting this stuff.
What is cheato?
 

scotts

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Cool! When you plan for your tank move don't forget to take into cosideration the locations of your electrical outlets. It would suck to set it all up and then realize you can't plug anything in.
Cheato is a plant (macro algae) that people use in their tanks, or sumps, that uses the nitrates for food. Not only is it another benefit to your tank, it helps control or stop the dreaded cyanobacteria. I have a swirly compact flourescent bulb for my cheato, in fact that is the only light I have for my sump.
 
Should I have a light in my sump?
Is there anyway to over filter your tank? I have many power filters I could put in my sump, but would it be worthwhile?
Do I have to put live rock or live sand in the sump? I would rather just put it all right in my DT?
 

scotts

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You should really plan to have some cheato or calupera(sp?) in your sump so yeah you will need a light. I have a clamp on light fixture and a 65 watt flourescent bulb in it.
You could probably overfilter a tank, but that is like saying can the air you breathe be too clean. usually if you have a sump you do not have a bunch of filters running also. Although I do think you need some type of mechanical filtration to get rid of the dust and junk that does get into your water.
No you do do not have to put LS or LR in your sump. Like I said there are as many ways to set up a sump as there are ways to set up a DT. I just happened to have put some sand and Rock in mine.
 
I got my overflow and pump today in the mail. I guess I will begin plotting how I want to plumb this.
One question though, what if water level sinks below the overflow box and shuts off the siphon, but the water pump just keeps on pumping??
Okay a second one too, What if there is no adjuster on the water pump to adjust flow? Are there pvc valves that you can buy to control the water flow?
 

hglumac

New Member
Hey Kev,
I am near Pittsburgh as well, 45 min south. I am in the process of setting up a sump too. Most of the info I got was from searching the web and asking around at local pet stores.
Aquaworld on Rt. 65 has a few sumps for sale you could look at to get some ideas.
Ask around at shops and have them show you theirs.
Good luck,
Heath
 

scotts

Active Member
Kevin, See post #25 on this thread and see if it answers your first question. Basically if the power goes off the water level in your boxes and your u-tube stay at a certain level. Then when the power goes back on the water flows back into your boxes and since the water is still in your u-tube the siphon starts again.
The controls you are looking for are called valves. The most common ones are ball valves and the work, but are a little difficult to adjust. If you can find what is called a Gate or Globe valve that would be great. Usually they are hard to find in plastic thought.
 
I have been trying to assemble my overflow and it is giving me trouble. I have a box with slits, the u tube siphon, a sponge prefilter thing, white 3 inch long pvc pipe, lug nuts that

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on to something, and a nut/bolt contraption that fits in the hole in the bottom of the overflow box. Any help on how to set this up... thank you.
Kevin
 

scotts

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Hey Kevin, I missed your post. The board is so much faster than it used to be. I have an extra oveflow that I just remembered about. I will try and take some pictures of it as it is assembled and hopefully answer your all your questions. Hopefully today. If not then definitely tomorrow during the race.
 

scotts

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You know one thing that I was going to recommend, and you don't need to wait on my pictures for this, is to get either a square ore rectangular bucket or trash can. Then set up your overflow on one edge. You do not need to connect the overflow drain to anything so you might want to do this outside or in a bath tub. So put the overflow on the bucket and then fool around with the set up. The bucket would be just like your tank. So when you pour water into the bucket it is like the pump pumping water into your tank. The water that comes out of your overflow would be the water that would go to your sump. This way you can get familiar with the overflow and make (and learn from) your mistakes here, rather than on your tank.
 
maybe i will do that, but i am actually heading to home depot today and taking my water pump with me and overflow too so that i can get some pvc pipe... so i guess ill talk to you when you reply, hopefully soon.
kevin
 
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