how would u put out a fish that was sick?

1journeyman

1journeyman

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Flushing and freezing both prolong the inevitable.
Clove method sounds the best. A shot to the head, knife, etc. also seem better to me.
 
integral9

integral9

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Freezer. Same way the Humane Society euthanizes kittens born with feline leukemia. (Friend of mine used to work there)
 
renogaw

renogaw

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Originally Posted by watson3
What do you think will happen if you freeze him..The brain does not stop as soon as you shut the door...
well, since they are cold blooded they slowly go to sleep.
btw, the cornell procedure says ALL of our methods seem to be "right" assuming done right.
 
renogaw

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Originally Posted by ophiura
First, definitely be sure you have made an attempt to treat it.
Frankly, IMO the freezer is the best method for the fishkeeper, not necessarily for the fish.
In the absence of a fish anesthetic, which I would just slowly overdose, a fast, accurate, blow to the head is suitable, IMO. Don't do this unless you can really do it.

a blow to the head seems difficult if the fish is flopping around...in the case of my 1.5" clown there's no way i could smash its head without making it explode all over my kitchen.
 
ophiura

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Put it in a plastic bag. Sounds harsh, but in a plastic bag and a firm and fast whack against a counter, for example. Don't hesitate, however. This is not a method for everyone, but there is no doubt that when done quickly, it is instantaneous.
 
zman1

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If they haven't lost all of their fight on the way home from the lake after being on ice or if filleting at one of the lake's cleaning stations, a good rap on the head with the handle of the filleting knife does the trick...
Freeze or head trama
 
30-xtra high

30-xtra high

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lol, freezer, or just over dose it, if the fish still eats... i know somebody that fead their oranda goldfish some tylenol until it got all loopy and just passed on.
(just so you all know), that fish was seriously ill, and untreatable.
 
phixer

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Originally Posted by renogaw
omg no dont flush a live fish. how'd you like to breath in urine, poop, worse? even if was just a couple seconds.
freezing seems to be the nicest way to do it. if you chop off their head their brain is still working..
Sounds like Southern California.

Freezing a fish is a long, slow and painful death. They dont immeadiately freeze, it takes a long time before a fish becomes hypothermic and unconcious, same as a human. Chopping the head off severes the nerves and spinal column instantly.
or...just flush em.
 
30-xtra high

30-xtra high

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Originally Posted by Phixer
Sounds like Southern California.

Freezing a fish is a long, slow and painful death. They dont immeadiately freeze, it takes a long time before a fish becomes hypothermic and unconcious, same as a human. Chopping the head off severes the nerves and spinal column instantly.
or...just flush em.

NOT SAME AS HUMAN!, notice we are warm blooded and fish are coldblooded.., and notice they stay in lakes that freeze over meaning the water is like.. 40, so a freezer just takes it a little longer, they don't feel pain.
 
phixer

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Originally Posted by 30-xtra high
NOT SAME AS HUMAN!, notice we are warm blooded and fish are coldblooded.., and notice they stay in lakes that freeze over meaning the water is like.. 40, so a freezer just takes it a little longer, they don't feel pain.
Humans are warmblooded?... Really

The process of hypothermia for fish is quite similar to humans when exposed to freezing conditions. Ice crystals forming on the skin and in the bloodstream causes pain. Read this article in its entirety and you will see how the stages of hypothermia for a fish are similar to that of a human. Tropical reef fish are also not not native to cold waters. Freezing a fish is not the best method of euthanasia, dont know where this idea ever came from.
Here's proof...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faustus...euthanasia.htm
http://thegab.org/Articles/Euthanasia.html
"Temperature changes such as described above will produce stress until death, or the dormancy stage is accomplished (if the fish is stressed there is no guarantee that it will enter the dormancy stage - a human that falls asleep on a freezing hillside will wake up before freezing death and only loses consciousness as the body's homeostatic system constricts bloodflow to the extremities (including the brain) to keep the core warm, there is no reason why the same shouldn't happen in fish)."
More sources against freezing

American Veterinary Medical Association.
http://tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/...guidelines.php
University of Michigan.
http://www.usu.edu/research/iacuc/eu...guidelines.pdf
Ethanol will kill a fish almost as quickly as decapitation and should also be considered.
 
gharner

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Dont quote me on this but i read somewhere that fish dont feel pain the same as humans do. a bad wound that would hurt us badly is just more like an anoyance to them. imo i would probably chop the head.
 
integral9

integral9

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Originally Posted by Phixer
Ethanol will kill a fish almost as quickly as decapitation and should also be considered.
Intersting. So we should drop them in a vat of 151 or Everclear? I think I saw that on an episode of Iron Chef... oh wait, that was a "drunken lobster" not a drunken fish... In any event, if you gotta go being soaked in 151 sounds like a good way to go to me.

On second thought, I hope you don't have any open wounds or it's gonna hurt like a (#&^$# for a little bit at least.
ps. On the iron chef episode I saw, the lobsters were still crawling, well barely, after about 20 min in a vat of pure Saki, so maybe the ethanol approach takes a little while. In any event that lobster was really drunk, up until the point where the chef ripped his tail off w/ his bare hands... Talk about brutal.
 
aanthony

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one time i put a tiny bit of vodka in my tank, (heard it reduces nitrates) a few drops killed off my tank, so put a few drops of vodka in his water, hell go out happy, ahaha. but seriously the science behind that is that the alcohol raises the bacteria level, which uses up oxygen, water without oxygen means the fish dies
 
ticklemyelmo

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I forget the exact measurements ( I'll try to find out on Thursday ) but place the fish in a half gallon of water or so and add a teaspoon or so of baking soda. Doing so removes the oxygen from the water and slowly lulls the fish into unconsciousness where it painlessly dies.
It's the only method approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association ( I know through my job )
 
suzy

suzy

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No. When you buy a fish (or are given it as a gift or find it on the sidewalk or inherit it), you are responsible for it's life. If this fish was removed from he ocean and you bought it, you are responsible for it's well being.
You must treat it and give it a chance. Or face the Captive Reef Goddess's wrath. Just know that everything bad that ever happens in your life is because of the CRG who wishes you bad tidings.....
 
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