How would you handle it?

trainfever

trainfever

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I have neighbors who own a Pitbull. I dont like Pitbulls and think they should be outlawed. (Please dont come on here and tel me I am wrong Blah blah blah. I am entitled to my opinion and you are entitled to yours. Thats not what this thread is about.) My neighbors daughter and my daughter(both 11) are best friends. I am not too crazy about this because the child is spoiled and disrespectful. She also tries to be very controlling and manipulative. My daughter goes to their house often and I told the parents that I dont want my daughter around the dog. Its my daughter and I am not going to gamble with her safety. They told me that they will lock the dog downstairs whenever my daughter is there. Anyway, yesterday mornig my daughter stopped at the girls house on the way to school, they go to school together. While my daughter was standing on the frontstep, the dog ran outside and bit her. There were 2 puncture marks and a big bruise. My daughter hid this from me because she knows I dont want her around the dog. tobight I found out about it and I called the father and asked if he knew the dog had bitten my daughter. He said that he knew and that he thought it was bad. I told him that my daughter had 2 puncture marks and a big bruise. He then said nonchalantly, "What do you want me to do?" This really aggravated me because I feel he should have called no matter what to make sure of the injury. I told him I think he should kill the dog. I know that wasnt going to happen but his nonchalant answer really pissed me off and I hung up on him. So then he knocks on my door and I went off on himabout how I think it was really irresponsible of him to just blow it off like it was nothing. He tried to make an excuse about how he was out of town for 3 days. I told him I didnt care, he still knew his dog bit my daughter and he should have called to make sure she was OK.( For what its worth, I think both parents are lacking in parental skills. I am not the only one who feels this way as my other neighbors think the same thing.) He then asked to see the bite wound as if I was lying. I told him no, that his seeing it wasnt going to make it go away. He then started rattling off something but I wasnt listening and told him to get the F**K out of my house. I also told him that I was thinking about making a Police report. After he left, my wife told me that I was going overboard, this also pissed me off as she wasnt the one on the phone and heard his nonchalant response. So, how would you have handled this?
 
jmick

jmick

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I have had the misfortune of owning a dog that did bite a neighbor and I had the dog put to sleep within 3 hours of the attack, which was unprovaked and scary due to the size and power of the animal. It sent chills up my spine to think what could have happened if a child got into our back yard or anyone else and it was not a risk I was willing to take. I really loved this dog and putting him down was the worst thing I have ever done and has been the only time I have shed tears as an adult.
Has this dog ever attacked before? Do you know the whole story of how the attack happened and IMO, the fact that it did bite a child is unacceptable and I'd hate to imagine what could have happened.
I would contact animal control and make a record of the attack in case it happens again, which would put more leverage on the bad owner.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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If the dog is not running loose there is not much that you can do about it. Don't let your daughter at their house if you are worried about what goes on over there. If she is friends with the other girl then let her come to your house to play. You will know that your daughter is being properly cared for and she can still have her friend.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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A nice big bowl of anti-freeze under the fence,and 2 big fat lips for the the dad.A dog that bites one of my kids = dead dog...No excuses
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2549191
If the dog is not running loose there is not much that you can do about it. Don't let your daughter at their house if you are worried about what goes on over there. If she is friends with the other girl then let her come to your house to play. You will know that your daughter is being properly cared for and she can still have her friend.
I am not sure about laws where you guys live but my dad had to have his mastiff quarantined for 2 weeks because it attacked a neighbors dog while my dad was walking it on leash in his front yard and the other dog was off lease in his yard (then again, the dog died).
 
matt b

matt b

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Dose the dog ever leave there house without a chain? Did the dog bite her in a mean way or was the dog playing? My dog bites me ALL the time from playing
 
coral keeper

coral keeper

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2549191
If the dog is not running loose there is not much that you can do about it. Don't let your daughter at their house if you are worried about what goes on over there. If she is friends with the other girl then let her come to your house to play. You will know that your daughter is being properly cared for and she can still have her friend.
^^^^^^Agreed.^^^^^^
 
trainfever

trainfever

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2549191
If the dog is not running loose there is not much that you can do about it. Don't let your daughter at their house if you are worried about what goes on over there. If she is friends with the other girl then let her come to your house to play. You will know that your daughter is being properly cared for and she can still have her friend.
The dog was not running loose, it ran out of the house and bit my daughter when the little girl answered the door. There was no provoking or anything. My daughter knocked for her on the way to school.
I dont know if the dog has bitten anyone else but I do know that the neighbor who lives next to them has had problems concerning the dog.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by MaTT B
http:///forum/post/2549200
Dose the dog ever leave there house without a chain? Did the dog bite her in a mean way or was the dog playing? My dog bites me ALL the time from playing
Puncture wounds and a bruise...sounds like this dog should'nt be let around strangers or non-family members.
 
pontius

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need more info. where on her body was your child bit and what were the circumstances of her being bit.
it does sound to me like you seem to be going overboard, insofar as you have a pre-determined opinion of pit bulls. there are 2 types of pit bulls....those with dogfighting bred into their bloodlines and those without dogfighting bred into their bloodlines. those without the fighting being bred into them are no more prone to attack a person as any other dog. I've owned good natured Golden Retrievers that have bit me....but I know there is a difference between a casual bite and a full on attack. that's why I'd like to know more about the circumstances of the bite.
but it's your child, so by all means do whatever you want. but no matter what you do, it's probably best to cool down first and not overreact.
 
trainfever

trainfever

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2549212
need more info. where on her body was your child bit and what were the circumstances of her being bit.
it does sound to me like you seem to be going overboard, insofar as you have a pre-determined opinion of pit bulls. there are 2 types of pit bulls....those with dogfighting bred into their bloodlines and those without dogfighting bred into their bloodlines. those without the fighting being bred into them are no more prone to attack a person as any other dog. I've owned good natured Golden Retrievers that have bit me....but I know there is a difference between a casual bite and a full on attack. that's why I'd like to know more about the circumstances of the bite.
but it's your child, so by all means do whatever you want. but no matter what you do, it's probably best to cool down first and not overreact.
She was bit on her upper thigh, lower hip area. The reason I am so aggravated is because of his nonchalant attitude and the fact that my daughter told me that the dog has been left around her even aftre I told the parents that I didnt want my daughter around the dog.
 
miaheatlvr

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Bottom line is you definitely need to protect yourself for the future by documenting this event officially via either police report, canine control or animal warden. So you can #1 create or add the the animals violent behavior #2 protect yourself if you need to seek future medical attention or legal procedures. ALSO make sure you take clear, crisp pictures next to your daily newspaper, to authenticate time frames as well.. To the poster who condoned an immediate response to violence towards the dog via poisoning or other means.. I think your much better off handling things legally via due process rather then adding to the problem.
 
al mc

al mc

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IMHO you have two concerns that need to be addressed.
First, is the dog up to date on its rabies vaccine?
Second, the bite should be documented if you are to proceed further.
Both these things can be done by your local animal control. You will probably settle very little on your own. It is worth calling them and letting them handle the situation. This is their job and they should be able to handle the situation with little emotion.
Your call is what to do with your daughter and her friendship. I agree with the posters that indicated if you still wanted them to be able to get together it should be in your home. Your daughter is safe and you do not have to worry about someone else's parenting skills.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
http:///forum/post/2549238
To the poster who condoned an immediate response to violence towards the dog via poisoning or other means.. I think your much better off handling things legally via due process rather then adding to the problem.
Probably so,im sure the dog that attacked me would agree 100% with you.
 
al mc

al mc

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The police will refer you to animal control as the dog is not running loose and posing an immediate danger to the public.
The ASCPA in Philly would also be a good resource for additional info and options on how to proceed.
 
nyyankeees

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Does this dog have all of it's shots, is it liscensed? Call animal control and tell the police you want to file an incident report and maybe your daughter needs to bee seen by a doctor, just to be safe and just as proof that the incident occurred. My parents owned a pitbull(Buddy) from 6 weeks old it was a family dog raised in the house, not tied up outdoors. It was a spolied rotten baby, was around small children all the time and was never let loose, my parents have a fenced in yard. (Whether it was running loose or not shouldn't matter.) One day while family friends of ours were over it bit one of their sons, I watch the attack and it was totally unprovoked the boy was 8yrs old. He needed stitches and has a scar luckily it wasn't anymore fatal. I don't care what people say about this breed it is unpredictable and dangerous and I agree should be outlawed! People say "oh it's a bad owner" while sometimes that holds true, with this breed IMO it doesn't matter, my parents were picture perfect owners to their pit and it still attacked! My parents were told by animal control that they had 2 choices their dog would be labeled as a vicious animal and if it ever bit someone again they would be charged legally and fined by the state(NY), or they could willingly have the dog put down. My parents loved that dog but they love their grandkids and the other children in the family more and the dog was put to sleep later that week. You need to report this, if this happens again they'll know it wasn't the first incident and be more likely to take immediate action! IMO, you are not over-reacting one bit!!
 
keri

keri

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If you don't report it there is no "legal" evidence that it happened. I know if it happened here and it was NOT up to date on it's rabies vaccine and you were to pursue it... it's head would be sent away for rabies testing. (Don't worry, the owners can keep the rest of the body)
Pitbull or not, an unprovoked attack is not acceptable.
Report it, REALLY. Even if nothing comes of this time then if later it went after someone else you have it documented.
And I agree .... have your daughter's friend come over to your house in the future if you can't trust the parents.
 
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