HUGE Slime Problem

bcollett

Member
First I'll get the tank Parameters out of the way.
90 gal tank (200lbs of LR 130lbs of sand)
20 gal Refugium with Cheato, Mangroves, and LR
2x250 MH with 4x65w PC actinics (Light cycle reduced to actinics - 8 hours MH - 6 hours a day) Also tank not in a location that gets very much Natural Sunlight
As of last test:
Ammonia = 0
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0-10ppm (depending on time of last water change)
Phosphate = 0
Silica = 0
pH = 8.2
KH = 9
Calcium = 420
Temp = 80°f
S.G. = 1.024-25
Livestock:
3 zebra gobies
1 madirin goby
1 rock blenny
1 false percula
1 yellow tang
1 yellow wrasse
2 purple fire fish
dozen or so small hermits,
4 large turbo snails
dozen or so small nassarius nails
2 mitrhax crabs.
1 sand sifting star fish
The tank took a turn in a hurry on me. I've been dealing with little bits of hair algae growing in certain places and i thought it was finally under control. all the rocks were clean and no more hair was growing then suddenly within 1-2 weeks everything went south. The hair algae is everywhere and i have red slime on the rocks, sand, glass, on my gorgonian. Its been a major chore to deal with every day. I dont know what else to try changing.
I've done a check and everyone is accounted for in the tank, so i dont have a dead fish rotting and screwing things up.
I reduced my lighting cycle by a couple hours to help slow the algae. I've been changing at least 40 gallons of water a week to get the nitrates down from the 10ppm to 0 ppm but it never seems to test any differently.
I only feed my fish 1 small cube of frozen food every other day.
Ive used a spare PH with a clear line on the end to blow in all the cracks and crevices of the LR in the display to get all the detritus stirred up so it will get sucked in to the skimmer/refugium.
Also, the overflows from my DT to filters down below actually run through the skimmer first then in to the refugium so every drop of water that is in circulation see's the skimmer.
ive also got a large wad of cheato in the main DT.
I have 2-Koralia 3 power heads circulating water as well as another smaller 200gph power head and a Fluval 405 canister filter that returns to the main DT. I dont think i have a circulation problem. The water is moving quite well in the tank.
I've tried using some of the red slime control powder by blue vet and i followed those directions to a T. after going through the entire bottle and not seeing any major difference im running out of ideas.
ive even been resorting to pulling all the smaller pieces of LR in the tank out and cleaning by hand in a bucket of water treated with the Red Slime control powder. That seems to have slowed the spread down a bit but I was only able to remove a very few rocks from the tank.
One thought was my lights. I bought the setup brand new in January. Is it likely that i need new PC blubs already?
what else can i do?
 

flower

Well-Known Member
WOW
First, it sounds like your water is not good. I am not talking about your saltwater tests...I am talking about the RO water you start with. If you have your own system it is time to change the filters. If you are going to a place like wal-mart...find a new store to get RO from.
Too much red slime remover will make the slime immune to the medicine and it will not help anymore.
1 little cube of food for all those fish every other day is not enough. JMO
do small water changes, clean your rock in pure saltwater with a soft (fish only) brush. Only the top rocks with hair algae. Your phosphates read 0 because the algae is feeding on it. So a phosphate remover should do wonders...follow the instructions to the letter!

run your skimmer, make sure there are no dead spots, that there is plenty of water flow over the rocks and sand bed. get out as much algae as possible before you add phosphate remover.
keep us posted.
 

bcollett

Member
I usually buy water from a LF premixed but i just bought my own RO/DI setup when all the problems started to pop up in the tank. Ive been using my own RO water for about 2 weeks now i guess. I'll definitely try some phosphate remover.
as for the feeding i used to feed a cube a day and some small sinking pellets as well but i worried that it was too much when everything went to hell in my tank so i started to cut it back a bit.
Thank you for the quick reply. I'll be down shopping for some kina phosphate removing 2maro.
 

ibew41

Active Member
are you sure you dont have the bad and good water from the ro mixed up I have seen people do this
 

gio28

Active Member
i had a minor problem with slime and chemipure elite (the elite kind has stuff in it that helps remove it) worked for me...its all gone. you might want to try it...it also makes your water look crystal clear.
 

bcollett

Member
Im sure that i'm not using the waste water. besides the problem actually started before i bought my own RO/DI setup. I was hoping the RO/DI setup was going to fix the problem, however, it hasn't really made any difference.
I'll see if i can find some Chemipure at my LFS
 

meowzer

Moderator
You might want to add some more cuc...maybe some cerith snails, a fighting conch...
try to find the problem before you start dumping in chemicals (IMO)
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by BCollett
http:///forum/post/3078195
Im sure that i'm not using the waste water. besides the problem actually started before i bought my own RO/DI setup. I was hoping the RO/DI setup was going to fix the problem, however, it hasn't really made any difference.
I'll see if i can find some Chemipure at my LFS

Chemipure isn't going to help...you already have made the slime immune to that chemical. It is the same medicaion as red X and all the others...it worked for gio28 because he didn't over medicate...it worked for me too. It is not going to work for you. Your beyond that point.
clean up the slime as much as you can and do small water changes...make sure you have near perfect RO/DI water, check your filters.
Do get some critter to sift or shift your sand bed. Do not medicate anymore. You are doing more harm than good with it.
That is the best advice I can give. Please do that and keep us posted.
 
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