florida joe
Well-Known Member
It can take up to 12 months for hte full life cycle of ich to run it's course... nasty parasite to say the least.
Explain to me this statement Please
Explain to me this statement Please
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by sminker
http:///forum/post/3039104
ive heard/read about the 11-12 month life cycle of Ich. havent seen any data sheets on it though.
i think it would be possible though. kinda like how the flu virus mutates i assume.
Ich isn't a virus though, it is a parasite with a very specific life cycle. That life cycle lasts a maximum of five weeks from start to finsh. Break the life cycle and you no longer have ich.
Eric, the next time that you see these spots get a close look with a magnifying glass. See if the spot is a smooth, round, raised bump or if it looks as though the flesh is slightly eroding around a white mark that is pushing through the surface of the skin.
http:///forum/post/3039104
ive heard/read about the 11-12 month life cycle of Ich. havent seen any data sheets on it though.
i think it would be possible though. kinda like how the flu virus mutates i assume.
Ich isn't a virus though, it is a parasite with a very specific life cycle. That life cycle lasts a maximum of five weeks from start to finsh. Break the life cycle and you no longer have ich.
Eric, the next time that you see these spots get a close look with a magnifying glass. See if the spot is a smooth, round, raised bump or if it looks as though the flesh is slightly eroding around a white mark that is pushing through the surface of the skin.
cranberry
Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/3039115
Ich isn't a virus though, it is a parasite with a very specific life cycle. That life cycle lasts a maximum of five weeks from start to finsh. Break the life cycle and you no longer have ich.
There have been reports of some ich lasting longer than the standard few weeks that is the norm. It wasn't a hobbyist observation but a research journal article. There were a few others sources that confirmed it. It didn't say it was the norm... but that it can happen. Let me see if I can find it in my pile of papers.
http:///forum/post/3039115
Ich isn't a virus though, it is a parasite with a very specific life cycle. That life cycle lasts a maximum of five weeks from start to finsh. Break the life cycle and you no longer have ich.
There have been reports of some ich lasting longer than the standard few weeks that is the norm. It wasn't a hobbyist observation but a research journal article. There were a few others sources that confirmed it. It didn't say it was the norm... but that it can happen. Let me see if I can find it in my pile of papers.
sepulatian
Moderator
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3039123
There have been reports of some ich lasting longer than the standard few weeks that is the norm. It wasn't a hobbyist observation but a research journal article. There were a few others sources that confirmed it. It didn't say it was the norm... but that it can happen. Let me see if I can find it in my pile of papers.
There are strains of ich that can have a longer life cycle than most ich. It is very rare but it does happen. For those unfortunate enough to have a fish with it, they can treat with copper. There isn't a strain of ich, as yet known, that can withstand copper treatment. We don't press copper treatment as much because some fish are sensitive to it.
http:///forum/post/3039123
There have been reports of some ich lasting longer than the standard few weeks that is the norm. It wasn't a hobbyist observation but a research journal article. There were a few others sources that confirmed it. It didn't say it was the norm... but that it can happen. Let me see if I can find it in my pile of papers.
There are strains of ich that can have a longer life cycle than most ich. It is very rare but it does happen. For those unfortunate enough to have a fish with it, they can treat with copper. There isn't a strain of ich, as yet known, that can withstand copper treatment. We don't press copper treatment as much because some fish are sensitive to it.
small triggers
Active Member
personally, i would take out my rock and sand and run copper in my tank till it left. Granted I would probably just end up using some fake rock and not put sand back in it if it were a continuing issue and just always run copper, thats me though...
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Cryptocaryon irritans is a spacific species of ciliate protozoa that we call ick. it has a spacific life cycle time line. I have never heard or read any sienitfic studys proving that there is a mutated form of this protozoa with a one year life cycle. But there are other parisitic deseases that mimic the look of ick which may have a much longer time line
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3040007
It's not mutated.
Why would I lie about reading that?
I am not saying you lied. I think if you can post the information you read it would be very helpful. In the time I have spent in this hobby I have never read of ick having a time line of a year
http:///forum/post/3040007
It's not mutated.
Why would I lie about reading that?
I am not saying you lied. I think if you can post the information you read it would be very helpful. In the time I have spent in this hobby I have never read of ick having a time line of a year
cranberry
Active Member
I wish I could find it Joe....easily that is. I wrote a beginner's article about it a couple of years ago. I saved all my sources... but this was either tossed recently or it's in the catch all in the garage.
It wasn't a hobbyist article. It was a full on research article. I hadn't read or heard about it either... but I spent MONTHS researching this article and ran across a lot of info at the library.
It wasn't a hobbyist article. It was a full on research article. I hadn't read or heard about it either... but I spent MONTHS researching this article and ran across a lot of info at the library.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Again my friend I am not saying you did not read it. What I am saying is if there is scientific fact to what you read it is extremely important for it to become common knowledge ,if we keep this post alive perhaps some others can also verify this time line
cranberry
Active Member
Actually, I never included it with the original beginner's article because people seem to find it complicated enough. And what is there to do for a strain that would live that long anyway? Not like you can hypo it or copper it that long. And it is indeed super rare... but it has been found.
I'm not saying that's what's going on here... I think it is something else.
I'm not saying that's what's going on here... I think it is something else.