I found out why I am losing all my new additions, how can I fix it-?

iowafish

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No disrespect to anyone, but I don't think the hypo theory holds up in a practical sense. Meaning, if the LFS is hypoing all their tanks, they'd probably have a LOT of unhappy customers whose fish are also dying soon after purchase.
Point is this: how many of their customers are keeping their tanks in indefinite hypo solely to accommodate the fish purchased from this one particular store? Probably not any.
As others have said, I think it wise to ask the LFS if you can test their water against yours and see what differences you might discover. Also, what kind/brand of test kits are you using and how new/old are they? What all are you testing for? Can you post your exact readings? Also, are you using a hydrometer or a refractometer?
Based on what we know, once you've ruled out stray voltage, I still think it sounds like there's somethink funky going on with your parameters.
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stdreb27

Active Member
I seriously doubt a temp fluxuation is killing your fish. I used to buy from a lfs that kept their water in a semi-hypo type environment at around 1.017 maybe a little less. They had a nice little sign. "NO WARRANTY ON LIVESTOCK" to address any problems. I used to drip them over the course of about 3 hrs. To 1.022 or so. Never really had any problems. If your fish are gulping then stick an airstone in the bucket.
 

perfectdark

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Assuming perameters are in check, assuming acclimation procedure was done correctly. There maybe no one reason why your fish are dying. But more of a combination of them, salinity change, pH difference, temp... etc etc
Other things to consider, How long are the fish bagged for before you start acclimating them? How long have the fish been in the tanks at your LFS?
One thing we must not forget about buying fish from our LFS's.
Once a fish is captured, the “fight or flight” response comes into play where all built-in survival strategies are routed to escaping. The fish then shuts down all non-essential processes such as digestion and the immune system for immediate use of energy for the purpose of escape. And no fish, no matter how well cared for from time of capture to arrival at your doorstep are as good as they were in the wild. They are stressed, usually starved, and have been held captive in many different and questionable water conditions of which none come near the pristine quality of their natural surroundings. So, no matter how good the fish looks, it really isn’t a happy fish!
Tank bred fish are more hardy and adapt to change easier but it still doesnt mean they are not stressed when being moved from place to place.
 

drex

Member
i have always had terrible luck drip acclimating, ive only lost 2 fish and they were easy hardy fish compared to what i have now and have had, and the 2that died were the only 2 i have ever drip acclimated. i have always just let the bag float to get temp acclimated,and then just add my water from my tank in to the bag in portions.usually 2-3 dips of the bag under my water so it lets some in to the bag. all my fish are in within 45 minutes and all are healthy as can be,and i have saved many fish from people that were as close as possible to death. drip acclimation is a failure for me, if its not working for you i suggest you try what i said instead of killing more fish. its simple, and works great.alot less temp fluxuation this way or temp issues that can happen.hope this helps..
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by drex
http:///forum/post/2695941
i have always had terrible luck drip acclimating, ive only lost 2 fish and they were easy hardy fish compared to what i have now and have had, and the 2that died were the only 2 i have ever drip acclimated. i have always just let the bag float to get temp acclimated,and then just add my water from my tank in to the bag in portions.usually 2-3 dips of the bag under my water so it lets some in to the bag. all my fish are in within 45 minutes and all are healthy as can be,and i have saved many fish from people that were as close as possible to death. drip acclimation is a failure for me, if its not working for you i suggest you try what i said instead of killing more fish. its simple, and works great.alot less temp fluxuation this way or temp issues that can happen.hope this helps..
Just a bit to tack on, be careful not to dip the bag so that water from the LFS gets into your tank. Many LFS's blanket treat their fish systems with some copper. Important not to get the water into your tank if you have anything more then a true fish only.
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Originally Posted by drex
http:///forum/post/2695941
i have always had terrible luck drip acclimating, ive only lost 2 fish and they were easy hardy fish compared to what i have now and have had, and the 2that died were the only 2 i have ever drip acclimated. i have always just let the bag float to get temp acclimated,and then just add my water from my tank in to the bag in portions.usually 2-3 dips of the bag under my water so it lets some in to the bag. all my fish are in within 45 minutes and all are healthy as can be,and i have saved many fish from people that were as close as possible to death. drip acclimation is a failure for me, if its not working for you i suggest you try what i said instead of killing more fish. its simple, and works great.alot less temp fluxuation this way or temp issues that can happen.hope this helps..
Depending on how long the fish are bagged for I agree 100%. Opening the bag releasing CO2 and introducing O2 after the fish have been bagged for longer than an hour can change pH and alk levels drastically and can be very dangerous. In some instances I too believe that there is less of an impact to the fish if you just open the bag and place the fish in the tank.
 

drex

Member
haha i forgot to mention not to get any of their water in yours also, i actually have a little cup i use but some people dip the bag. sometimes it is better to just put them in,situation depending. my neighbor called me when he sprung a leak in his plumbing for hhis tank,took everything out of the tank and threw it in a 1 gallon tupperware with a lid on it and threw it on his table. i went and took it "after 6-7 hrs and everything was white,floating,some were gasping, rushed home and flung them into my tank,the only thing that didnt survive was a purple lobster. i saved a mated pair of ocellaris clowns,pajama cardinal,a starfish that im not exactly sure on haha,an absloutely awesome rose anemone,and some snails and crabs. all situation depending how long what has been in a bag and in what conditions etc. i have always just struggled with drip acclimating after my 2 times i went back to how i mentioned.
 

coral keeper

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I only float the bag for about 30 min max and in that 30 min I would get a turkey baster and add some DT water every 3 min then catch out the fish from the bag and I'd flush the LFS water down the drain. I've never lost a fish that way. IMO the drip acclimation isn't needed for fish, especially 2-3 hours and IMO the 2-3 hour drip acclimation does more harm than good to fish.
 
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