I hate to buy a new heater

spanko

spanko

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What heater are you using, how is it's reliability and ease of use?
In my 29 biocube I had an AC30 that was pretty good for the most part but wanted to get a shorter one to fit in a certain area. I have a VisiTherm 100 watt right now but it seems like it needs to be dialed in regularly.
 
scsinet

scsinet

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I use Jager heaters myself, but I've heard that the Visi-Therms are great too... but if you don't like them, then I'd give the Jager a shot.
Or take a shot of jager...
 
spanko

spanko

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My Visi Therm isn't the stealth model. I wonder if that makes a difference. Well two posts here for the Ebo Jager, and one on another site fo the Hydor Theo.
 
natclanwy

natclanwy

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I also have been using the Jagor for the last year or so but I use a Ranco temp controller to monitor the temp. Seems to be an excellent heater.
 
sman

sman

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I have 2 stealths. There great. I havent touched them since I started the tank, temp stays very consistant. The only thing that bothered me when I first got my bigger one (250w) is that when it clicks on its a loud click, for the fist few weeks I was kept wondering wtf is that noise? Only does is when the heater comes on, I dont even notice it now.
 
scsinet

scsinet

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2471318
My Visi Therm isn't the stealth model. I wonder if that makes a difference. Well two posts here for the Ebo Jager, and one on another site fo the Hydor Theo.
DO NOT... I MEAN DO NOT use a Hydor Theo.
You can take that comment as whatever you want... a suggestion, and order, an arrogant command, whatever it takes as long as it makes you not buy one.
These heaters have an absolutely horrid reputation for sticking on, and I can personally attest to it, in MULTIPLE instances. IMO they are one of the worst heaters you can get.
 
scsinet

scsinet

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Originally Posted by sman
http:///forum/post/2471344
I have 2 stealths. There great. I havent touched them since I started the tank, temp stays very consistant. The only thing that bothered me when I first got my bigger one (250w) is that when it clicks on its a loud click, for the fist few weeks I was kept wondering wtf is that noise? Only does is when the heater comes on, I dont even notice it now.
Good heaters have "snap action" contacts to prevent arcing and welding. If arcing occurs on the contacts, it can cause them to become welded together *cough* hydortheo *cough* thus making the heater stay on indefinitely. So they have a spring to make the contacts jump together and apart quickly, minimizing arcing.
Usually the mechanism makes a louder noise at contact close (turnon) than on open (turnoff).
 
sman

sman

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/2471365
Good heaters have "snap action" contacts to prevent arcing and welding. If arcing occurs on the contacts, it can cause them to become welded together *cough* hydortheo *cough* thus making the heater stay on indefinitely. So they have a spring to make the contacts jump together and apart quickly, minimizing arcing.
Usually the mechanism makes a louder noise at contact close (turnon) than on open (turnoff).
Thanks for explaining! I guess these are good heaters then huh?
Lol, speak of the devil, I just heard it click, must have known I was talking about it.
 
sharkbait9

sharkbait9

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don't use hydor all-glass heaters. I have 5 (still have them) and all failed. They let stray current run free from the plastic top dial.

One by one they all failed after 6 months, not getting banged up or beat upjust sitting in my sump and zzzzzzzzzap i could feel the current
 
alix2.0

alix2.0

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i looove my stealths! i have 3 and have never had a problem with any of them. never have to reset them and as far as i know they never stick on.

edit/ yeahh 1500 posts!
lol sorry
 
sharkbait9

sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/2471279
I use Jager heaters myself, but I've heard that the Visi-Therms are great too... but if you don't like them, then I'd give the Jager a shot.
Or take a shot of jager...

I thought they got bought by another company and that company turned those heaters into an turd with a plug?
Something like they are not submersible, they get stuck on and so on and so forth.
I have see old post that said they are the best heaters on the market? is that still true?
 
natclanwy

natclanwy

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They are no longer Ebo Jager they are now Eheim Jager and they were never submersible before I am pretty sure anyway, and I just read that they now have or will have a submersible model now.
 
scsinet

scsinet

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2471840
I thought they got bought by another company and that company turned those heaters into an turd with a plug?
Something like they are not submersible, they get stuck on and so on and so forth.
I have see old post that said they are the best heaters on the market? is that still true?
Okay the story with Jagers..
Under EBO, the heaters were fully submersible.
Ebo was bought by EHEIM, but because EHEIM didn't have UL certification on the heaters, they could not say they were submersible. The heaters were before, and have always been submersible... Eheim just couldn't admit it.
However, they have gained their certification, and now if you look at the manufacturer web site, it tells you they are submersible. It's now only a matter of them exhausing their inventory of literature, packaging, and parts that have the "non-submersible" language on them.
You can safely submerse any Jager heater. I have, and have never had a problem... and I have at least 10 of these things submersed.
As for the quality... I've never had a problem myself...
they eppear to be exactly the same heater, just stamped with a different brand name.
 
natclanwy

natclanwy

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I just checked their website and it says fully submersible so I went and dug out my box and it says Submersible but the instructions say don't submerse past mark on the heater. So you can submerse these heaters past the mark with no problems? If so thats cool because when I bought the heater I thought it was a submersable heater but when I got it I saw a maximum level mark on the heater and I have never had enough guts to try to submerge it completely.
 
scsinet

scsinet

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Yes, you can submerse them with no problem. Like I said... it's just a matter of exhausing their existing parts that have the old language on them. They must be on to the new boxes now, but still have some more heater shanks and manuals to use.
 
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