i have a 55 gallon freshwater tank into a saltwater fish and reef tank...but i am clueless

TeeReef

New Member
hi, i have a 55 gallon freshwater that i have drained relocated the fish and i am ready to transform it into a saltwater tank with fish live rock and eventually reef. there is just one problem though i have no clue what i am doing. i have read so much information on how to's until i feel just dumb. the more i read the more i am confused i need a simplified how to, and a detailed list on the supplies i need to get started. i am tired of being so scared and i am just ready to get started. i need someone anyone to help me. someone with a lot of patience. Am i asking for to much???
 

jay0705

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Hi. Welcome to sw lol.
First off a 55 isn't an ideal size but will work.
What type of equipment are you thinking you want to use? Lights, filter, power heads, skimmer , ect.
Give me an idea of what your thinking and well go from there.
 

TeeReef

New Member
ok so, so far all i have is the canister from the fresh water. i have received conflicting stories on whether or not i can use it. other than that i got nuthin lol. i figured if someone could say ok tee for your size tank u will need... and i go from there im ready to buy i jus dont know what to buy there is soooo much out there. and why do you say my 55 gallon tank is not ideal. i was told the bigger the the tank the easier the maintenance is that not so?
 

lmforbis

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You have the tank so that is a start.

Next purchase should be a book. Jay has recommended one, he'll chime in for sure. I can't remember the name, something like saltwater for dummies. Then read it. Maybe read it again.

You will first need a source of reverse osmosis deionized water (RODI). You can buy it or make your own.

You will need salt. Basic instant ocean will work fine. I buy mine on line at Amazon or fosters and smith, always get free shipping.

You will need a refractometer to measure the salinity. Do not get a hydrometer, they are cheap but very inaccurate.

You will need a dedicated container to mix salt water, a food safe 5 gallon bucket will work.

That will get your water right but there is more you need for fish.

A heater, you may already have one from your freshwater tank.

Rock. You can buy all live rock or dry rock. Live rock is expensive and heavy because it is wet, they sell it by the pound. Dry rock is much cheaper and weighs less, also sold by the pound. I like to start with mostly dry rock and add a piece of live to seed it with. For a 55 you probably need 30-40 lb of dry rock and more if you get live.

Sand is optional, just depends on what you like. If you use sand you want argonite sand but not too fine or it will blow around.

That takes care of water and aquascaping.

You will need filtration. The rock is your biological filtration but you probably want a mechanical filter. A basic hang on the back will work fine.

Another important thing is flow. You need a lot of water movement in the tank. For that you will need power heads. One on each end of the tank will work.

You will need a light fixture that is meant for salt water.

Your tank then needs to cycle. This is the time the bacteria are colonizing the rock. It can take any where from 3 weeks to 2 months. You will need test kits to monitor ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate while this is happening.

In the future if you do coral you will need proper lighting. It can be pretty pricy.
You will also want a protein skimmer.
 

TeeReef

New Member
ok im with you so far and writing this down now i have a few questions. 1. what is a basic hang? is the canister i have enough? i found an led light on amazon. how big do i need? like do i need it as long as the tank or not? can you explained what you mean by the 55 gallon not being ideal...do i need to go smaller or bigger?
 

jay0705

Well-Known Member
Saltwater aquariums for dummies is the book.
Bigger is better yes, but big by sw standards is huge for fw lol. Honestly a 55 is just narrow. A 75 is a better tank to start with. You have a 55 tho so well go with that. A canister is fine if you clean it religiously. Otherwise they become nitrate traps. Not a death sentence for fish, but alot of inverts won't handle it well.
Lets start from square one
If you want sand, imo you do. Put that in now after you rinse it. You want dry argonite sand.
2nd Fill the tank with fw. You can buy r o water at most lfs.
3rd very very important only this one time add enough salt to get you a sg or salinity around .35ppm or 1.022 after this you must premix sw for water changes. I use a 30 gal brute garbage can with a power head. You need oxygen and carbon dioxide to even out hence the premixing. I mix for about 24hrs.
4th once your salinty is on par get some rock. Most folks do 80-90% base/ dry rock seeded with live rock. Myself i add about a 1/3 of my live rock now. So for a 55 i would do 15-20lbs. Totally preference tho. I have a lfs that sells "base" rock for 3.99 a lb that most places sell as live rock for 8-9 lb. I picked up a 13lb rock today lol
5th after the rock you have a few options to start the cycle. Raw shrimp, ghost feeding, ect. Do not!!! Use live fish.
Once your tank is fully cycled you can slowly add fish.
Thats well down the road tho.
So any questions? Lol
 

TeeReef

New Member
yes i was...what is a hang? and where can i get a list of these acronyms and their meanings lol??? will that be in the book
 

jay0705

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Hob= hang on back filter. Hangs on the back of the tank.
S.g. specific gravity essentially the amount of salt dissolved in the water.
It probably seems sooo overwhelming but honestly its not that bad
 

TeeReef

New Member
ok im with u so far now what is the signifigance of letting the sand dry. also how many bags of sand do i need to buy to cover the tank and is the hang in addition to the canister filter or instead of. do u recommend a sump if so i dont mind buying one i just need to know what to buy. i swear im buying that book tomorrow
 

one-fish

Active Member
First I also have a 55gal not the best but it will work in fact just started less than 9 months ago. If unable to find recommended book here's a link https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Saltwater-Aquariums-Guides/dp/1592578268/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493439894&sr=8-2&keywords=complete+idiots+guide++to+saltwater The info. mentioned above may sound confusing but after reading you should understand more clearly since you have FW experience you should find it easier. Best thing is to plan ahead , know and understand and what it takes to create an environment capable housing marine livestock. I wouldn't plan on going to reef until you have mastered the basics of keeping fish and inverts all selected from your Final Plan....Your thriving Reef Tank....Good Luck. ...
 

jay0705

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ok im with u so far now what is the signifigance of letting the sand dry. also how many bags of sand do i need to buy to cover the tank and is the hang in addition to the canister filter or instead of. do u recommend a sump if so i dont mind buying one i just need to know what to buy. i swear im buying that book tomorrow
A sump is the Cadillac of the sw world. However it would mean drilling your 55. You can buy pre drilled tanks but you pay more for them.
The hob is instead of a canister. A canister is fine you just need to clean it often.
Dry sand is just that dry sand. You have too options dry sand or live sand. Live is bagged in a little water. Its twice the price and just not worth it. You will need to rinse the dry sand tho. Helps reduce the cloudiness once you add it to the tank.
 

jay0705

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As far as a sump. I use hob filters and have no issue. A sump is nice bc you can hide all your equipment in it tho. Heater, skimmer ect.
 

lmforbis

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I use a sump, but like Jay said, the tank would need to be drilled. With an older tank you don't necessarily know if the glass is tempered or not. You can't drill tempered glass. You can buy overflows to the sump that hang over the side of the tank. They depend on a siphon. They work well until the siphon is broken then you can get a flood. I've always been a bit nervous about drilling a tank so I bought mine already drilled, reef ready.
If I did not have a sump I would choose the hang on the back filter over a canister just because it is more accessible to clean and less messy. I've never been able to clean a canister without getting water all over the floor. I've used both HOB and canisters and only switched over to a sump a few years ago.
 

TeeReef

New Member
this is all great advise i cannot thank u guys enough. i have hob and a canister so i will try those first until i get more familiar with my tank and in the meantime look for a pre drilled tank in the future. so i just have a few more questions. so just to be clear u are saying that i can use dry rock and dry sand as opposed to live rock and live sand jus make sure i rinse the sand well and let it dry first rite? and also the difference between the two is how long it will take my tank to accumulate the bacteria it needs to become stable to sustain the life of my fish and tank rite?
 

jay0705

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Yes dry sand no don't let it redry after rinse. Rinse it and put it in the tank. Base/ dry rock. Majority yes, u do want some live rock to start tho. Maybe a 5-8lb peice. This will help seed your base rock
 

TeeReef

New Member
oh my mistake i misunderstood the statement about the sand, ok so i have the option to get RO water and add salt or tank ready salt water which is better?? oh and how many pounds of sand should i use?
 
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