I have some new questions.

veni vidi vici

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The following was forwarded to me from a Texas friend ...
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.
I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least! Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?
 

veni vidi vici

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Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
 

veni vidi vici

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Shawn Hannity brought up these same questionable things on his show "Hannitys America".I would very much like to know the truth on these allegations.
 

rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2785428
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
As much as I hate the guy, it's still a coin toss whether or not he was being sarcastic when talking about how people make attacks on him. It was probably taken out of context because people don't want to include the other 5 sentences on either end of a "crazy" statement.
 

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2785434
As much as I hate the guy, it's still a coin toss whether or not he was being sarcastic when talking about how people make attacks on him. It was probably taken out of context because people don't want to include the other 5 sentences on either end of a "crazy" statement.
I think this statement in question is the least of what concerns me.I want to know what his involvement with the rest of this cast of characters is all about.
 

rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2785442
I think this statement in question is the least of what concerns me.I want to know what his involvement with the rest of this cast of characters is all about.
It's obvious, but those crazy liberal college kids will bandwagon any liberal candidate or rep of the democratic party regardless of the fine print.
 

el guapo

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The cattle in the chute marching along say "MOOOO" . You tell them they are going to slaughter and they still say "MOOOO" . you can show them pictures of steaks and they still say "MOOOO" as they stumble along through the chutes . As they reach the killing floor the still just stumble along and "MOOOO" . It's not until the moment of death that they realize it was predestined .

Some of us will not go down with out a fight . Others will march along and "MOOOO" about change and how great it will be .
 

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by SpiderWoman
http:///forum/post/2785516
+1
Always a good idea to check snopes.com. This is how all the rumors and false info spread.
Check snopes for fact? i think not.I would rely on a Ouija board first.
Little bits and pieces are starting to be let out in the media here in Chicago and on at least one of the big 3 media outlets.Maybe just a tad bit more of Truth in some of theses questions than some would like to believe.
 

geridoc

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Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2785469
The cattle in the chute marching along say "MOOOO" . You tell them they are going to slaughter and they still say "MOOOO" . you can show them pictures of steaks and they still say "MOOOO" as they stumble along through the chutes . As they reach the killing floor the still just stumble along and "MOOOO" . It's not until the moment of death that they realize it was predestined .

Some of us will not go down with out a fight . Others will march along and "MOOOO" about change and how great it will be .
I don't think this is fair to the far right - they sometimes say "BAAA", but as usual, they continue to follow their ideological mandates right up to the captive bolt gun (sometimes known as the unregulated economy).
 

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2785570
I don't think this is fair to the far right - they sometimes say "BAAA", but as usual, they continue to follow their ideological mandates right up to the captive bolt gun (sometimes known as the unregulated economy).
Speaking of sheep,please don't stray from the subject.
BTW My Acorn /Ayers question is starting to get answered.Apparently there are a lot of dead people still voting and there is a direct connection between Ayers/Acorn/and Obama
 

reefraff

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Funny how snopes calls this particular e-mail false when they only refute a few of the claims but on numerous other issues (I reference snopes and truth or fiction a lot) They will label an item mixed, unproven or exaggerated (even all of the above) when some of the claims are accurate.
What they don't explain is how could a college student come up with the money to travel around the world when he had all those student loan payments hanging over his head. Also seem to gloss over the facts in the Rezko house deal and didn't touch on some of the questions about the foreign money. The claims about the Iran and Hamas were ignored as well
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2785570
I don't think this is fair to the far right - they sometimes say "BAAA", but as usual, they continue to follow their ideological mandates right up to the captive bolt gun (sometimes known as the unregulated economy).
There is nothing "unregulated" about our economy. But comparative to say, Europe, it is better. If you want to look at HIGHLY regulated economies, you don't have to look far to see failure. You have liberals running around crying the sky is falling (even before this recent episode) and advocating more government control. But if you look at democracies with highly regulated economies and nationalized industries like health care, you'll find double digit unemployment, double digit interest rates, people who have to take the bus, can't afford to buy a house, highly inefficient health care system. There is no comparison on who has the better standard of living.
Domestically we don't have to look any further than fanny and freddy. Do you really think, if these quazi-government entities weren't buying up these junk loans, that the market would have made them in the first place?
Europe is a highly regulated market, if it was the "evil bush policy of deregulation (which I'll debate, bush is no deregulator) then why are these highly controlled markets overseas collapsing too? They have the highly regulated markets that are suppose to be able to address this.
We tried the keynesian way of doing things, it doesn't work. Do a study on the coal industry in England, post WW2 Germany, monetary policy in south america. Just look at all of Europe today.
 
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