I Think Its Beaten Me...i'm Ready To Give It Up!!

phishman1

Member
Just when everything was going great, and I mean great, another disaster.
35 gallon, LR, LS (a lot of LR), Prizm skimmer, lots of water movement. maroon clown, 1 yellow tail damsel, 1 yellow belly damsel. Choc chip Star, 5 Pep shrimp, 1 coral banded, usual cast of snails and hermits.
Water quality had been very good, with exception of a nitrate spike, water change lowered it back to normal limits.
"Anal" with water checks, every other day.
Tuesday night came home from parttime job and notice water seemed a little cloudy.
Panicked, clown dead, feather dusters tops turned milky and were discarded by the worm. Snails dead, starfish "melted". Water checked, ammonia high, nitrate 40..oh, and damsels also dead, yes damsels, you couldn't run them over with a truck and kill them and I somehow managed.
cleaned out tank yesterday, 1/2 water change, all dead snails removed, feather dusters "moved" inside tubes so kept those. carcasses of fish of course removed.
Water checked last night, ammonia still high, nitrate dropped, nitrite always has been, hardness and ph fine.
Water has an odor to it.
Could it be that the clams also perished and that is what is fouling water and causing ammonia spike.
Will go home today and again, take out all rock, smell for decay and discard if noticed. Another 1/2 of tank water change and will monitor, and folks if this doesn't work, its back to angel fish and cichlids.
I'm really frustrated, first time ich wiped out tank, then 30 days without fish, it worked, and this time the tank was beautiful.....
Local fish store mentioned I may be doing "too much" monitoring and not enough of letting it just happen. Tank has been up for 5 months.
Jim
 

sistrmary

Member
Sorry about your losses...don't let it get you down and back to fresh water. I've found that usually the best aquariests come from horrible beginnings. (Like ich or an ammonia spike wiping out the tank) Because they learn from what happened last time. Personally, I don't feel there is such a thing as over-monitoring your tanks. Also, smell-testing your LR isn't a good idea (take one fairly *long* distanced whiff of any LR..it doesn't smell pretty lol)
Yes, if you had a clam die, you would have a spike in a 35gal. Or if you had a fish/starfish die, or a couple of dead snails...that's the hard part about having the small tanks. Anything dies and it's curtains for most everything.
 
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simm

Guest
Dude dont worry. I lost several fish out of my tank. My nitrates were HI!!!! I could not find out why. After a long investigation I found 3 snails under some rock that had died. Im not sure how long they had been there but thats why my nitrates were out da roof. :rolleyes:
 

blondenaso1

Member
Have you been keeping an eye on your tanks temp? That is funny that you mention the clam because the same thing happened to me. I had a piece of Gulf LR that had a few clams on it. A couple of them died and caused an NH4 spike that killed quite a few things. Stick with it. You'll be rewarded in the end with your time, patience, and resilience. HTH Good Luck
 
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newreefers

Guest
I know it may be hard to do, but I try to do a head count about every day or so to make sure nothing has died and I didn't notice.
 

phishman1

Member
You were correct!!!!! It was the clams!!!, I took apart the tank, rock by rock, and searched for anything that smelled rotten. Definately the clams, in fact they oozed out! Yuk...
Ok, so now I cleaned up all that mess, changed 1/2 the tank out, nothing should be dead in there. Horseshoe crab is ok, 2 of the five pep shrimp ok, coral banded shrimp ok, several hermits ok, 2 bumblebee snails ok.
Ammonia just a little high, but nitrate perfect, nitrite and PH perfect. Ammonia should be down tomorrow, I can go out and get a few snails and shrimp to re stock, correct. And next week and each week thereafter I can add a fish a week to get back up to level?
Thanks for the help...
JIm
 

surfnturf

Member
Give things about 2 weeks to calm down, then you can start to add stuff. A fish a week is a good period to let the bacteria adjust. Sorry for the loss, but you learned something from it so it is not really a total loss. If you've been tossing around the idea of a larger tank, now you have the justification to do it, use your current tank as a sump/refugium and you will be set. I have never seen a damsel belly up, as bad as I wish I could kill my domino, I guess that will never happen. He may find himself swirling in a white porcelain container with a large hole at the bottom pretty soon if he keeps it up.:D
 
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