I want a fox
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mary
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Why do you want to capture an animal that is to be left in the wild. They can not be domesticated. They are prey animals. Very necessary for keeping the rodent population down, among other things. It is cruel to pen one up. Growing up on a farm, dad took in a baby fox that had been orphaned. Put it out of doors on a leather collar and long leash with a dog house for it to get cover from the weather. As it grew we had the decision to make as to when it would be able to fend for itself, so plans were made to give it a couple more months and then release it. We had nothing but farm land and forrest around us. The fox ate through the leash close to the collar, and escaped. It has haunted me forever wondering how long it took that poor animal to strangle in the collar as it grew. Leave nature alone, please. There are so many dogs and cats that need homes. Give a domesticated animal a home. What makes people like you want to do that? Do you have any desire to understand the environment and what that encompasses? Sorry for being so harsh but this attitude really gets me wired up!
aarone
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Why do you want to capture an animal that is to be left in the wild.
And i suppose fish arent wild?
ij ust want a red fox so i can pet its bushy tail.
That is why i wanted one....
Im not getting one you moron. Keep your hipocritcal comments to yourself and go paint something.
And i suppose fish arent wild?
ij ust want a red fox so i can pet its bushy tail.
That is why i wanted one....
Im not getting one you moron. Keep your hipocritcal comments to yourself and go paint something.
kittykitty
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Originally posted by mary
Baby fox are not pups, they are kits. Have you read anything about them or do you still have this childish, barbaric need to pocket every living thing you see?
Please promptly go take each and every fish and organism that is currently living inside of your tank and place them in the ocean. Thank you.
mary
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Ahhh, so you posted this to get a rise out of the population. Nope, not a vegetarian. But, I will not purchase any meat that does not have the "treated humanely" sign on it. There are humane ways of killing an animal for meat. Deftly. We eat mainly organically raised chicken. Not that you are really interested. By the way, fish are raised for the trade today. Many are illegally caught , some are legally caught.and I hope our LFS would be honest with me about where my purchases came from. However, any fish in my tank have a wonderful life, all their needs met and won't be food for other fish. In the ocean of course that is the natural order of things. Can't touch that. Recently purchased a linkia star . It did not survive, I suspect it was wild caught..Got careless, never even asked. By the way, we grew up on wild meat but my father never killed more than we consumed. He was a very responsible hunter. Totally self sufficient. Very rarely had to go miles away to buy our food. Different world now. I suppose this will give you more fodder for your dislike of those you consider hypacritical. Am just another person who does make poor choices at times but who wants to do the right thing for the sake of our beloved earth that gives us everything we need, even for the vile treatment we give her. Sorry if I have upset you. .
kittykitty
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Originally posted by mary
However, any fish in my tank have a wonderful life, all their needs met and won't be food for other fish.
Who are you to say that Aarone's fox would not have a wonderful life?
aarone
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You are such a hipocrite....
Recently purchased a linkia star
Have you read anything about them or do you still have this childish, barbaric need to pocket every living thing you see?
yes that was you telling me the same thing.
But, I will not purchase any meat that does not have the "treated humanely" sign on it. There are humane ways of killing an animal for meat. Deftly. We eat mainly organically raised chicken.
By the way, we grew up on wild meat but my father never killed more than we consumed
yeah that was you....
How can you be sure that the fish that you have in your tank were not gassed with cyanide then brought back?
Any cage is a cage....that includes tanks....with that being said you cant tell someone to not want an exotic animal and have your own fish tank with exotics where you "think" that their every needs are being met, no matter how close to the ocean you simulate it is just not. So If i were to buy that fox and put it in my big back yard and give it micce and other rodents....would i be doing the right th ing? would you be a moron for trying to tell me that it is cruel to have a fox when I gave it the best possible environment to live in just like you do:?
Recently purchased a linkia star
Have you read anything about them or do you still have this childish, barbaric need to pocket every living thing you see?
yes that was you telling me the same thing.
But, I will not purchase any meat that does not have the "treated humanely" sign on it. There are humane ways of killing an animal for meat. Deftly. We eat mainly organically raised chicken.
By the way, we grew up on wild meat but my father never killed more than we consumed
yeah that was you....
How can you be sure that the fish that you have in your tank were not gassed with cyanide then brought back?
Any cage is a cage....that includes tanks....with that being said you cant tell someone to not want an exotic animal and have your own fish tank with exotics where you "think" that their every needs are being met, no matter how close to the ocean you simulate it is just not. So If i were to buy that fox and put it in my big back yard and give it micce and other rodents....would i be doing the right th ing? would you be a moron for trying to tell me that it is cruel to have a fox when I gave it the best possible environment to live in just like you do:?
kittykitty
Member
Originally posted by mary
Recently purchased a linkia star . It did not survive, I suspect it was wild caught..
Just because it died doesn't mean it was wild caught. Ever think maybe you did something wrong? Did you read up on the linkia star before you purchased it? Did you realize that linkias are very delicate?
I wonder how many people out there have wild caught fish and have had them live and thrive for years... hmm....
Just about everyone here.
Whats the difference in keeping a fox or a lynx that is CAPTIVE BRED AND RAISED and keeping a clownfish that is captive bred and raised? NOTHING.
So, like I said before:
Originally posted by KittyKitty
Please promptly go take each and every fish and organism that is currently living inside of your tank and place them in the ocean. Thank you.
mary
Member
Tell you what, you get your fox, both sexes, see if they mate. If they do after aperiod of time, then they have been well cared for and are fine. Fish mate, breed and by their behavior, are safe and content. Otherwise, they would not breed. That is the key. Stop looking for things to catch me on, and look inward. You are being very defensive.
kittykitty
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If foxes didn't breed in captivity, we wouldn't be able to buy captive bred foxes, now would we? Do a search on the internet of "fox breeders" or "lynx breeders". You will get a TON of websites.
aarone
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how about this....you read further into the post and find that i cannot own a fox because of local policies plus they are a grand......Then you re type last post with regards to ALL of the information....
Yes i am being very defensive, It is not your place to call me barbaric and childish when im not even going through with these plans.
And i did do research and know that foxes can be bred in captivity.
Yes i am being very defensive, It is not your place to call me barbaric and childish when im not even going through with these plans.
And i did do research and know that foxes can be bred in captivity.
o.nerka
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Originally posted by KittyKitty
If foxes didn't breed in captivity, we wouldn't be able to buy captive bred foxes, now would we? Do a search on the internet of "fox breeders" or "lynx breeders". You will get a TON of websites.
Ok, first of all you will not be allowed to have a lynx as a pet no matter what your district Game Department says....this is because it is listed in CITES (Commission In Trade of Endangered Species) as an endangered species...this is a federal agreement signed by CAN, USA and 95% of all other nations in the world. It doesn't allow for the legal trade of live endangered animals of parts of them...so luck man...also did you know that lynx area a VERY difficult species to keep in captivity??? They are very difficult to keep properly nourished...and seriously, it would be shame to have one as a pet because despite what you may think it will not be a purry little house cat.....and it is alot different than an aquarium load of fish which you can actually tend to....oh and by the way I do actually know what I'm talking about, having heard my university professors blab on and on for a semester about international fish & wildlife regulations....
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daniel411
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I "thought" alot of animals were on CITES that could still be purchased legally. Their are different guidelines in many cases if they are captive raised. Theres quite a few breeders publically advertising if it is illegal. I wouldn't trust everything your university professor tells you. Everyone makes mistakes, has faulty research, or twists things for their own agenda.
kittykitty
Member
Originally posted by O.nerka
Ok, first of all you will not be allowed to have a lynx as a pet no matter what your district Game Department says....this is because it is listed in CITES (Commission In Trade of Endangered Species) as an endangered species...this is a federal agreement signed by CAN, USA and 95% of all other nations in the world. It doesn't allow for the legal trade of live endangered animals of parts of them...so luck man...also did you know that lynx area a VERY difficult species to keep in captivity??? They are very difficult to keep properly nourished...and seriously, it would be shame to have one as a pet because despite what you may think it will not be a purry little house cat.....and it is alot different than an aquarium load of fish which you can actually tend to....oh and by the way I do actually know what I'm talking about, having heard my university professors blab on and on for a semester about international fish & wildlife regulations....
Yeah go tell that to all of the canadian and siberian lynx breeders out there, all of the people that have successfully kept and bred lynxes, and all of the websites that post care information on them.
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cowfishrule
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i'd say go with a pet skunk.
have it de-scented
have it de-scented