I want an octopus

travis99

Member
Seriously, I am looking into buying a new tank for just an octopus. I am pretty good with the whole saltwater fish thing. So I know all about the cycle and all that. But I am looking for suggestion from some more experienced folks. I know they are not easy to keep. But I am willing to devote the time and money to have one kick a$$ octo tank!
So if you know about what size tank I would need, and what they eat just let me know. And you will be seeing some awesome pictures soon.
Thanks
Travis
 

draconis321

Member
i my self was looking into doing an octo tank 2 things you must know befor you start
1) they are escape artis tank must be completely seald
2)short life span
about 2years tops for the bigger speices
if your okay with this heres a fews tips
1)sealing the tank is realy important
2)octos are really messy you need a good solid systemfor your tank
3)live food(fiddlers,ghost shrimp,ect...)is a must they are hunters after all
4)toys i no it sounds wierd but these are inquesitve animals they need to something for them to play with i would suggest a jar with a pop-off lid just stick a fiddler in there for him to get out
5)red lighting (optional) there are certain octos that will hide all the time and
sicne they can't see red light it'll trick them into thinking its night and coming
out.
6) make sure you no what speices your get a lot of places will say comon or brown octo but then you just don't no if its a fully grwn dwarf or baby
vulgaris
7) research
!!! is really important tonmo.com is the best place for cephalopods research.
my suggestion of speices is for you to get a o.vulgaris the are the biggest aquirium speices thatcan be kept plus they have at least a 2year lifespan
you'll need at least 125 gal tank but their awsome
good luck too you
 

travis99

Member
Thanks I really appreciate all the time you put into that reply. I have a 125 gallon tank now so I am not sure if I could convince my wife to let me get another. I may get a bow front or a deeper style tank, because I don't have to worry about lighting any corals. Going to the lfs today. Thanks for all the advice.
Travis
 

atlantis16

Member
Originally Posted by travis99
http:///forum/post/2541559
Thanks I really appreciate all the time you put into that reply. I have a 125 gallon tank now so I am not sure if I could convince my wife to let me get another. I may get a bow front or a deeper style tank, because I don't have to worry about lighting any corals. Going to the lfs today. Thanks for all the advice.
Travis
Just imagine having a few buddies over for a ball game. As they walk down into the basement their like nice tanks. What is that on the left? "Its an octopus"! That would just be a sick situation. Like who actually has a stingray or octopus in their home? I hope you get one
 

zeke92

Active Member
they don't live more then a year i think.
the larger species are the more social and smart ones, the smaller ones are less social.
i read tons about them because thats what my seahorse tank was going to be but i decided otherwise.
you will need a sump. before you put water in the tank you will need holes drilled for the sump, because you can't have anything running through the top of the aquarium. and even then you will have to have covers over the holes drilled. a 600 pound octopus can fit through a hole the size of a quarter. remember that

run the filters and stuff through the sump, you will need good filtration for an agrressive fish, wich i'm sure you know already because of there eating habits.
it's best to have toys for the bigger ones because they like to play, like PVC pipes in the rock and even dog toys and tennis ball.
you can put crabs in a container and it will learn how to open it aswell, it's neat watching videos of that on youtube. it's also good recreation for the octopus i bet. keeps him happy.
hope this helps
 

texasmetal

Active Member
You will need a 50 gallon or larger. A drilled tank is the way to go, but you can run HOB equipment as long as you secure it so that the octopus' arms don't get sucked into any pumps. You'll need to secure the top of the tank so that there are NO holes or cracks. As mentioned, they can squeeze through the tiniest of places. Having no bones does have its advantages.
You can't have any expectations for a wild-caught octopus as far as lifespan goes. Sucks, but unfortunately being a collector doesn't mean being educated in what you are collecting. Old octopuses are much easier to capture, therefore a lot of old octopuses turn up in the trade. You might get lucky and get a baby. You might get screwed and end up with a senescent (senile, decaying health) octopus. The only way to get around that is to contact your supplier and make sure they are sending you a very small one, and at the same time, not a dwarf! Now, as to whether or not your supplier can determine the difference between a baby mid-sized species and an adult dwarf is a whole 'nother issue. Most dwarfs common in the US market today are O. mercatoris. They are an "Atlantic" species coming from the Gulf of Mexico, and Florida. Avoid them. They are quite boring unless you like sitting for hours late at night waiting for 5 minutes of hunting. Dwarfs are VERY nocturnal and don't change their habits. It is quite exciting seeing them take out fiddler crabs as large as they are though.
They need extra strong filtration, so for a 50 gallon, you need equipment designed for a 150 gallon. Water changes weekly as any other tank. Octos create about 3 times more waste than an equally sized fish. They are also messy eaters so you need to keep an eye on any excess crab shells. They should not be kept with other creatures unless those other creatures are meant to be food items. Octopuses are not invincible and can be killed or severely injured by fish. Damsels have been known to peck out octo eyes, so don't use them as feeders. Octopuses prefer crustaceans anyway.
Fiddler crabs and shore shrimp make the best diet. You can try feeding thawed stuff like scallops, shrimp, krill, silversides, etc. If it takes the prepared foods then great, but you always want to try and stick to live items as they are always going to be more nutritious. Freshwater items are crap. Don't feed crap to your octopus.
This site sells O. hummelincki aka O. filosus which is a Haitian species. They are very fun in my opinion. To me they are the perfect pet octopus species, as they stay relatively small, they are very interactive, day active instead of nocturnal (like most) and they have probably the most diverse color and texture changes I've seen in a captive octopus species. Only downside is that they are a small-egged species so the babies hatch out as planktonic larvae, instead of small octopuses.
Other species you can check out are O. vulgaris (needs 120 gallons or more) O. briareus (needs 75 gallons or more) O. bimaculoides, O. bimaculatus, and Abdopus aculeatus. These are the most common in the hobby trade and typically your best options.
This is my current octopus: O. briareus (Caribbean Reef Octopus)

When I got her

2.5 months later
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She's very sociable, but only active in the early morning, and late afternoon/evening. I put her in a critter keeper when I got her, about a week later I lost her and didn't see her again for another 2 weeks, and at that time she was already about 4 times bigger than when I got her. She was living off of hitch-hikers. Since then, I've trained her onto frozen foods and she approaches me when she sees me in front of the tank. For an invertebrate... a slugs cousin no less, octopuses are absolutely just as amazing as people make them out to be. They should be cared for as a pet and not just another shiney object in the glass box of water.
Anything else you need to know just ask. You might also join "****for any octo-specific information you need in the future.
 

travis99

Member
Woah! That is awesome. Thanks for all the helpful tips. That is why you guys are awesome. This is a great place for info and it is the people on it that makes it so great. It is good to have a place to learn about your interests. Thanks guys!
Travis
 

texasmetal

Active Member
Originally Posted by kev.1979
http:///forum/post/2544181
i saw one at the lfs the other day and they said it had just inked itself, they were throwing it away

That's retarded. The ink is practically harmless if dealt with correctly. A good skimmer, and/or carbon will take care of it. It's also usually thick enough you can sift it out of the tank with a fine-mesh net or panty hose. On the other hand, if it inked in its bag during transit, yes, it's screwed.
Working at any pet store should require being educated about the animals they deal with.
 

octoman334

New Member
i would really like an octopus. i've had trouble finding them though. please
tell me where i can get one [online] what type of octopus is on this website
for sale?????????????????????????? help me
 
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kikithemermaid

Guest
Why is it bad if they ink? I can't believe they threw it away!!
 

texasmetal

Active Member
Originally Posted by kikithemermaid
http:///forum/post/2570638
Why is it bad if they ink? I can't believe they threw it away!!
The ink can coat their gills and suffocate them, that's why it is a problem in the bag, but not in a tank where there is filtration and circulation, as well as more overall water volume.
 

alix2.0

Active Member
Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2570925
The ink can coat their gills and suffocate them, that's why it is a problem in the bag, but not in a tank where there is filtration and circulation, as well as more overall water volume.
what exactly is
the ink? is it toxic?
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by alix2.0
http:///forum/post/2571122
what exactly is
the ink? is it toxic?
The octopus's ink helps it avoid attack. It releases a disorienting black cloud that is accompanied by another secretion to dull the attacker's sense of smell.The brown or black cloud is inky because it contains a lot of a common animal pigment, melanin.
 
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