Ich and the total distruction of my 220gal tank

drtash

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my salinity is now down to 1.012......I cant make enough RO/DI fast enough. It only makes 75 gal a day
 

pbnj

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Freshwater dips are useless. One of the stages of cryto (forget which one) can survive a 40hr freshwater dip.
It may help to strip the fish of some attached ****** to alieviate stress, but I believe the whole process is much too stressful too, therefore a wash (no pun intended).
 

beth

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Originally Posted by Ret Talbot
http:///forum/post/2883257
I agree that three weeks is a safe bet in a normal tropical aquarium, but I usually suggest thirty days simply because encysted tomonts can survive up to 28 days in some conditions based on my reading of the literature. Then you have perhaps as long as 48 hours as free-swimming tomites looking for a host. I mean once you've gone to all the trouble, you might as well make it last, right? lol
Beth, have you any experience with chloroquine phosphate for treating ******?

Sorry for the delay, but I'm out of town during the holiday. I'd like to know your reference you mention?
I have been using hyposalinity for Cryptocaryon irritans exclusively for some time because it has always worked. There is evidence that antimalarial drugs have some effectiveness, especially when treating Amyloodinium (Chloroquine diphosphate). However, how practical is it for the average hobbyist to obtain these meds? And, other meds/treatments seem to work as well, and are readily available. I'm pretty much a supporter of using hypo for ich.
 

beth

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If LR was in a tank exposed to fish with ich, then yeah, it could be the source of ich contamination.
 

ret talbot

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Originally Posted by pbnj
http:///forum/post/2885965
Freshwater dips are useless. One of the stages of cryto (forget which one) can survive a 40hr freshwater dip.
It may help to strip the fish of some attached ****** to alieviate stress, but I believe the whole process is much too stressful too, therefore a wash (no pun intended).
IME/IMO freshwater dips (preferably with formalin and malachite green) are very effective when done throughout the course of a thirty day treatment with fish in a QT tank
. I suggest doing them in conjunction with hyposalinity. The QT tank water needs to be changed, of course, but I have not found these dips to not be too stressful on many saltwaterfish, especially when compared to the long-term effects of copper, for example). It is standard husbandry at most public aquaria.
 

ret talbot

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Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/2885983
Sorry for the delay, but I'm out of town during the holiday. I'd like to know your reference you mention?
I have been using hyposalinity for Cryptocaryon irritans exclusively for some time because it has always worked. There is evidence that antimalarial drugs have some effectiveness, especially when treating Amyloodinium (Chloroquine diphosphate). However, how practical is it for the average hobbyist to obtain these meds? And, other meds/treatments seem to work as well, and are readily available. I'm pretty much a supporter of using hypo for ich.
Happy holidays! I agree with you on hypo as a primary treatment while the fish are in a QT tank. I have just run into a lot of people who are not on top of their salinity daily while the fish are in QT, and they run into problems (obviously). I was asking about chloroquine phosphate because it is getting some air time, and I feel it probably needs some treatment in future articles/books. I just don't have the first-hand experience. I'll dig up the reference for you.
 

peter1215

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one of the lfs that i get my fish from QT all new fish with chloroquine phosphate for three weeks before selling to the public. hes also successfully treated fish that were already afected with ******. I personally prefer chloroquine over hypo and copper.
 

roberteb

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Originally Posted by pbnj
http:///forum/post/2885965
Freshwater dips are useless. One of the stages of cryto (forget which one) can survive a 40hr freshwater dip.
It may help to strip the fish of some attached ****** to alieviate stress, but I believe the whole process is much too stressful too, therefore a wash (no pun intended).
I'm convinced that a freshwater dip saved my dog-face puffer. He was scratching so bad that his skin was beginning to look red and his eyes were not looking good from the sand. As soon as I put him in the freshwater dip it was instant relief and he hasn't scratched since.
 
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