Ich

[mr saltwater]

Treated my main fowlr 125 gallon tank for 7 days with seachem prime then did a 50 water change
All ich gone fish are good
Lost my eel
One week later added a sailfin tang to tank
Died the next day
Temp 79-80
Sa 1.020
Ph 8.3
Everything else good
Carbon is running
How long can you safely assume you can add new fish to tank

 

[flower]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544134
Treated my main fowlr 125 gallon tank for 7 days with seachem prime then did a 50 water change
All ich gone fish are good
Lost my eel
One week later added a sailfin tang to tank
Died the next day
Temp 79-80
Sa 1.020
Ph 8.3
Everything else good
Carbon is running
How long can you safely assume you can add new fish to tank


Hi,

Welcome to the site. sorry about the losses.

The spots from ich only SEEM to go away, actually it's a stage of the parasite to drop off and be free floating, so you were never rid of it and it wasn't "gone".

Ich is a parasite and until you get rid of them, your tank is never safe to add new fish. New fish are stressed from the move, that makes them more susceptible to the parasite, and once infected, by sheer numbers even the healthy fish who had managed to not be overcome, can be overtaken as well...killing every fish in the tank.

Inverts are not affected by the parasite, only fish. To get rid of ich, the tank has to be left FISHLESS for 8 weeks. That means removing every fish in the display tank and treating them in a hospital tank. By quarantining all new arrivals, you have a much better chance of preventing the parasite from being introduced in the first place.

For the healthy fish...a cleaner shrimp likes to eat the parasite from their gills and they even set up a little "cleaning station" where the fish will come to just for relief. Feeding fresh garlic juice soaked food will also help immunity. However as soon as any stress happens, an new outbreak will occur. New fish don't have a chance because of the stress level they suffer already.

 

[geridoc]

I agree with everything Flower said, but I don't think your tang died from ich - 24 hours is far too fast. I would guess that stress from the move killed the tang.

 

[mr saltwater]

Thanks the tang was breathing heavy one day fine
Next day breathing heavy later dead
So eels don't die of ich
Then of what I had a snowflake eel
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[mr saltwater]

Maybe tang was infant couldn't handle stress will try end of month for larger one
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[geridoc]

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Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544182
Maybe tang was infant couldn't handle stress will try end of month for larger one
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I never buy baby tangs because they are very cute, but have a terrible survival record. I always feel sorry for those tanks full of hippo or yellow tangs the size of a quarter that I see in the lfs. They are 99% doomed. Three-four inches is the smallest tang I have had success with.

 

[mr saltwater]

Thanks I'll try to buy a med to large sailfin tang later on
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[flower]

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Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544252
Thanks I'll try to buy a med to large sailfin tang later on
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Hi, I was only addressing the ich problem, I didn't mean it killed your small tang...but I don't think you should purchase any new fish of any size until you address the issue of getting the parasite out of the tank first.

 

[trigger40]

+1

 

[trigger40]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544134
Treated my main fowlr 125 gallon tank for 7 days with seachem prime then did a 50 water change
All ich gone fish are good
Lost my eel
One week later added a sailfin tang to tank
Died the next day
Temp 79-80
Sa 1.020
Ph 8.3
Everything else good
Carbon is running
How long can you safely assume you can add new fish to tank
im dealing with ick too and so far the only stuff that i have tried and worked was the stuff that every one on this forum told me to do. i would qt every one and use hypo to cure your fish and then put them back 2 months lator.

 

[mr saltwater]

I medicated the entire tank with seachem prima guard for seven days
Then did sixty percent water change
Then I purchased a uv sterilizer

 

[trigger40]

if you feel like its ok to add new fish go for it.

 

[mr saltwater]

I'm going to wait until the end of month monitor tank and see
I figure three weeks no ich
Is a good sign and addition to the tank u uv sterilizer 24 watt for a 125 gallon

 

[flower]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544391
I'm going to wait until the end of month monitor tank and see
I figure three weeks no ich
Is a good sign and addition to the tank u uv sterilizer 24 watt for a 125 gallon

Friend...am I seriously just talking to myself? Just because you don't see ich in your established healthy fish, does not mean the parasite is gone. A UV sterilizer will not fix your problem...I won't bother to bug you about it anymore. Do some more research on the critter, and I guess figure it out for yourself.

 

[trigger40]

i agree with flower but everyone does it differently.

 

[jay0705]

+1

 

[mr saltwater]

No I have been doing research but doesn't the free floating ich dye with in two days of no host is found the life cycle isn't it 7 days at temp 80 salinity 1.020

 

[trigger40]

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Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544399
No I have been doing research but doesn't the free floating ich dye with in two days of no host is found the life cycle isn't it 7 days at temp 80 salinity 1.020
ther is no for shur time. some experts have found it to die in two days others a month to two months. the way i look at it is that ick is like the cold. no mater wher you go it will be ther. its just a mater of 30 ick parisites and 30,000. if you can get ahead of it you will be good. some people might disagre but that is how i look at it. but all that thes people want to do is help you and make shur you do it right. it might seem horrible that you haft to keep the tank empty for two months but its what you haft to do. and i would try hypo and do you have a qt.

 

[mr saltwater]

Yes 20 gallon
I got one blue hippo 4 clowns I chromis
Crabs and snails
Keep the tank empty for two months at what temp and salinity and will my crabs and snails die and my live rock
I

 

[trigger40]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr saltwater http:///t/397593/ich#post_3544404
Yes 20 gallon
I got one blue hippo 4 clowns I chromis
Crabs and snails
Keep the tank empty for two months at what temp and salinity and will my crabs and snails die and my live rock
I
put all the fish in the qt. feed the minimum amount and you can keep the water in the main tank normal. in the qt do a serise of small water changes and replace with fresh water until salinaty is at 14 ppm 1.009 specific gravity (i recomen changing a gallon of water every hour 30). keep ph buffers ready for the ph will drop because of how fresh the water is. keep a spare bucket of water with peramiters mached to the qt sitting around with a power head and towel over the bucket to keep from contamination. treat with hyposalinaty for 3 weeks then slowly rase back up to normal salinaty over the coarse of 1 week. then let them sit in the qt for another month and wach carfully for singes of ick. if they get ick agen repeat the cycle. if they are good put back in the main tank. now the tank will have been empty for 2 months giving a good amount of time for the parisite to die. and dont forget to chek the water peramiters daily in the qt. good luck.