If you ever had a grievence about *****: From PETA

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thomas712

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STEPS to follow when you spot abuse in a ***** store
If you recently visited a ***** store and saw animals suffering or in deplorable conditions, you have a very important role to play. You can help a lot, so here are a few suggestions to assist you in a cruelty investigation:
Where to Start
Refuse to turn your back. Are there any animals in immediate danger? If you see animals being abused or neglected, ask to speak with the store’s manager, the district manager, and/or the regional companion animal coordinator (RCAC). Be sure to call *****’s customer hotline at 1-888-824-PALS and/or e-mail ***** at AnimalsFirst@*****.com and copy PETCOCruelty@peta.org. For after-hours complaints, please call ***** at 858-453-7845, extension 5858. Be persistent! The animal(s) depend on you.
Gather Evidence
Document everything. Take detailed notes of what you witnessed, being very specific and descriptive. Don’t be emotional, and don’t exaggerate. Your statement must start with a date and time and be a factual record of anything you saw of concern and any potential violations you witnessed. Include details of conversations with management and employees.
A picture is worth a thousand words. If possible, take photos of the conditions you witnessed. Videotaping by a member of the public in a public place is perfectly legal, even with a concealed camera, as long as you are not in a restricted area where the public is not allowed. Unless you know that the state you are in is a “one-party consent” state, for audio taping, it is wise to turn off the sound. To see where the law stands in your state, visit http://www.rcfp.org/taping/index.html.
If possible, get other witnesses and collect a statement from each of them right away to document their experience. The more witnesses, the stronger your case will be. And others may notice things that you don’t.
What to Look For
Conditions: Are the general area, cage, and bowl clean? Are the animals overcrowded? Is there proper food (not just empty husks for birds or hard, big food for a small animal, or food that isn’t natural to that species). Is there water, and if so, is it fresh and clean? What’s the temperature like?
Symptoms of Illness: Look for runny or glossy eyes, nasal discharge, lethargy, sneezing, labored breathing, dehydration (such as that seen in snakes not able to remove their shed), birds sitting on the bottom of the cage, dead fish floating in tanks, diarrhea, shivering, vomiting, circling, rocking, head-bobbing, self-mutilation (feather-plucking), and wheezing. Be on the alert for signs of starvation or overcrowding, such as cannibalism. (See our animal factsheets on PETCOSucks.com)
Sickroom: Where are the sick animals kept? The most egregious cases of neglect happen to unlucky animals thrown in the backroom of the store once they show severe symptoms or returned to the store because of illness.
Where the Law Stands
Laws are written so that anyone can understand them. Familiarize yourself with your local laws. The laws that may apply to small animals in pet stores are your state anti-cruelty laws and local health regulations, all available in the local library or county law office. To find your state’s anti-cruelty law, go to www.findlaw.com/11stategov.
Find out who in your city, county, or state investigates and enforces the anti-cruelty laws. Pet store complaints are usually handled by the local humane society, SPCA, or animal control. Keep in mind that many of the nonprofit animal agencies that would respond to your complaint may not have law-enforcement authority. If you think you have spotted violations of your state’s animal laws and your humane society or animal shelter humane investigators don’t have authority, you may need to call on the sheriff or police department. Have a copy of the anti-cruelty laws with you when you report your complaint to the proper authorities, as they probably will not!
Pursuing Your Case
File a formal complaint with the local animal welfare/protection agency (usually the Humane Society, SPCA or animal control) that has law-enforcement authority over pet stores in your town or county. Remember: Stick to the facts, and be calm and businesslike, not emotional. Provide your written statement along with pictures, if you have any, but keep copies of everything. Be sure to include the date, time, address, store number, and a list of whom you talked to with their responses.
Contact any of the following who you feel might be helpful:
The local health department. In some states and counties, health officials inspect pet shops; in other states, they inspect for dirty conditions that may pose a public health risk, such as psittacosis (from beaked birds) and salmonella (common in lizards and turtles).
The Better Business Bureau and/or your state’s attorney general may get involved if any store knowingly sells sick or injured animals.
ALWAYS take any sick animals or those who die after purchase to a veterinarian immediately, for treatment or a necropsy. Obtain records and veterinary statements detailing the findings, and demand that ***** give you a full refund as well as reimbursement for all medical costs. If ***** refuses to refund the cost, go to your local courthouse and file a small claims form (it’s very easy, and you do not need an attorney—see www.peopleslawyer.net/smallclaims/ for more information). At the hearing, present all your veterinary and related bills.
City Council or County Board of Commissioners. Send the members a letter describing your experience. Explain why this store is a problem for the community. Include copies of any photographs and investigation materials.
If no action is taken, you may wish to notify the local media. Call a sympathetic journalist whose name you have noticed when she or he wrote about local issues. Or write or fax a letter to various media outlets such as the local news station. Some stations will do investigative reports on neglectful businesses.
Write to ***** CEO Brian Devine and tell him to stop selling animals now. Animals are not merchandise to be placed on a shelf like toys with flashy slogans and low prices, only to be purchased on a whim. Let him know that until ***** stops selling live animals, you won’t be caught dead in a ***** store. Write to:
Brian Devine, Chair & CEO
*****
9125 Rehco Rd.
San Diego, CA 92121
Tel.: 858-453-7845
Fax: 858-453-6585
E-Mail: briand@*****.com
Call PETA for Help
Visit our Web site PETCOcruelty.com to read other cases of neglect reported in ***** stores across the country. Send us a letter or an e-mail detailing exactly what you saw. Include pictures and other documents labeled with the date and description on back. Please include your contact information so we can reach you if we need your help with our campaign or lawsuit against *****. With your permission, we can post your comments on our Web site along with the numerous other hideous cases, so the public can get the real story behind ***** stores and the animals who are victims of the pet trade.
Contact us at:
PETA
Domestic Animal and Wildlife Rescue & Information Department
501 Front St.
Norfolk, VA 23510
Tel.: 757-622-7382
Fax: 757-628-0796
E-Mail: PetcoCruelty@peta.org
Other Ways You Can Help
Boycott *****! Refuse to spend any money in ***** stores until they agree to stop selling animals.
Rescue animals from shelters and rescue agencies, rather than purchasing them from *****. Small animal rescue organizations are overflowing with unwanted animals that need loving, responsible homes. Most people don’t realize that small animals caught in the pet trade are facing the same overpopulation crisis as cats and dogs.
Educate others about the abuses that animals in ***** stores are forced to endure. Feel free to download any of our factsheets. Write a letter to the editor, distribute leaflets, organize a demonstration, etc.
Contact your state representative. Schedule a meeting to share the facts of your case, and ask him or her to propose pet store regulations.
 

nflnutswif

Member
Thank you for this information, I frequent the ***** by our home for my dogs and birds food. I always look at the fish but would NEVER purchase!
Will never get over the ***** sals person selling "NEMOS" to an uneducated family, (just trying to make their kids happy) with a 2.5 gallon fresh water setup!
I told the adults but they walked out the door with all their new equipment. Kids smiling . . .For now!
made me sick!
 

joker_ca

Active Member
When i worked at petsmart in the SPECIALTY section (fish,reptiles,birds,small animals) it used to look like trash until i got there i would clean the hell out of everything!!! But the biggest problem is that the employees dont give a sh_t at all and the managers only care when animals start to die and it affects the money thay take in. I would complain to the managers about people not cleaning or do stuff right and they would say to me,"all you do is complain to much" so i couldnt take it any more and quite
then later i found out that a african gray and a conure died because of the people who there they feed them the wrong way
but i remember someone come in with a video camera video taping the cages and i walked over to her and asked her for help and she started to video tape me head to toe, but i was worried cause i just cleaned the cages and they looked great
petsmart and ***** are sh_t companys my GF used to work at ***** and she used to tell me some f_cked up stories
 
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autopilot

Guest
They are just putting in a ***** down the road from my house. My GF just applied to work there :eek:
 

iceburger

Member
PETA is a bit

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just get PO'ed and tell anyone you know in the hobby about anything that they did to you or animals and advise not to get supplies and animals at that store, just my opinion, or, raise hell with a manager, ya never know, you might get lucky
 

bergamer

Active Member
the only good thing about ***** fish is that if they can survive in their tanks, they sure will survive in YOURS!!!
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fishieness

Active Member
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ive gotten a few fish there because my LFS is 20 minutes away at least (speeding, and i dont have a car) and they close at 5 (i get home at 830 after rehersal at school. I got a coral beuty and a tomato clown, the beuty had ick, and it spred and killed them both I wasnt able to get it under controle. And i got 2 maroon clowns a bit after the coral and the tomato, One died a few days later misteriously. I think it was jsut something from the store, because all my levels are fine, and the other fish, as well as the other moroon is doing fanominal.....
Sigh..... it was sad. so im not going to buy from there anymore. They have some guys there that are very noledgable, but most arent, and ive been helped by some guys who have never had a fish tank, and are jsut there because no one else is
 

cowfishrule

Active Member
one of the *****'s here in jersey just blew up
contractors ruptured a gas line, and the employees actually tried to get the animals out until it went *boom*
people survived, luckily they didnt have any cats or dogs, it was just fish / lizards/ small furry things that didnt make it
 

maeistero

Active Member

Originally posted by lion_crazz
Thank you for all that information.
This thread should be made a sticky!

bump and bump, agreed wholeheartedly!!!!:jumping:
to add, i'd love to work at any petstore, but the max you'll get paid is 6.75 here. that's why nobody cares about the animals or fish. everyone's bitter about making crap for money. and every pet store employee has to explain 1000x daily how to take care of some poor thing that's going to probably die soon in an inexperienced person's hands. i worked at pet world (lfs/some animals) in hs and that's where i learned selling, i sold people books rather than what they wanted. if you have a question, then you probably have no business with that living pet yet.
but on the other hand i just negotiated a 75gal hood and dual lights for $80 from some blonde manager. so i guess they're good for something.
 

fishnerd

Member
I would agree with the thread a little more if PETA wasn't promoting it. PETA is the most diehard special interest groups in the world.
I am in favor of animal rights, but PETA has gone too far.
I like guns, but don't think 12 year olds should have access to them. This is why I'm not an NRA member either.
 

grouperhead

Active Member
PETA is a radical group. They will stop at nothing to put an end to many of the activities we love. ***** may have some problems, but PETA is definately not the people to contact about them. Bo
 

ophiura

Active Member
I would agree on that part...I think their ultimate motives are a little sketchy.
I would like to tell a good PetSmart story, at least IMO -
When I lived in VA there was a big story - some little kid running around (parents, of course, weren't watching). She stuck her finger in a cage and was bitten. The parents were adamant that petsmart turn over the rat to be killed and tested for rabies, or they would file a lawsuit. Well petsmart REFUSED to turn over the RAT and argued that the kid was unattended and (basically) the parents were to blame for her bite. No they wouldn't turn it over; the idea that it might have rabies was rediculous.
I was so happy to hear the store ready to defend a RAT even when threatened with a (potentially bad for business) lawsuit! I offered to buy the rat, as I love them as pets, but an employee kept it.
Just a positive story about a chain store for once. :)
 
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