In Need Of Serious Help !!!!!!!!!!

maxxy

maxxy

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I ran out of ideas and my lfs is of no help. Hope someone out there has some ideas. i have a 30gal fully cycled tank 6mos old. Up untill 2weeks ago my fish were doing great. 2weeks ago I added a cleaner shrimp and 4 hermits,at the time I had a tomato clown and 2 damsels in the tank. 2 days after adding teh new invert and crabs my tomato started to hide in the back and refused to eat, his color alsolooked a little funny almost like he had ich or something. well the next morning he was dead and in the days to follow the other fish also passed. The shrimp is doing fine. I kept checking the water levels and they stay at amm0,tritre0,trate0,ph8.2,temp80(holds steady),sp grav1.023no phosphates.After the fish died a got a starfish also doing fine so on Sat I decided to get some more fish up untill then it was on;y the crabs,shrimpand star. I put in 2 convict blennies and a clown goby. They seemed to be doing fine. I got home from work yesterday and the clown was dead
. Today after work one of my blennies in laying on the bottom huffing. The other one also looks funny with the same whiteish look to him(he is at least swimmin for now)
.I once again checked the levels nothing changed. I think I somehow got a bacterial infection in the tank and my lfs said to use marycn.I know I can't because of the inverts. Can anyone help????????The shrimp, star and crabs are still doing fine. Could one of these have been the carrier? :help:
 
hagfish

hagfish

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What kind of circulation do you have? Also, what kind of substrate and filtration?
I would definitely slow down on adding fish for a while.
FWIW, I had a similar situation in an 80 gallon tank recently. It was cycled for about 2 months and I had 3 fish in it, two of which I had in other tanks for almost a year. They were fine for like two months and I added an angel and then it died in about a week. Then everything I was adding to the tank would die. And eventually the only thing that lived was a convict blenny. The inverts were fine mind you. This was quite a mystery to me as my water params were fine.
Well, I just bought a Salifert test kit for nitrates and phosphates (first time using Salifert) and they actually read above zero. Nitrates were about 25, which isn't really too high for fish, but the fish that are in there now seem to be fine anyway. I bet I had high chemicals before and didn't know it. I hate crappy test kits. It's Salifert from now on. So anyway, you may want to have someone else test it just in case yours are wrong.
 
maxxy

maxxy

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I have an aquaclear 70. crushed coral and a power head. I looked again at the blenny and I'm sure he has either ich or marine velvet.now he is gasping. I had my water tested by the lfs and also I have 2 different test kits I get them same results with them both lfs also tested water as perfect. Any suggestions on how to treat ich with inverts in the tank? I should just go back to freshwater they are much easier. I thought if you had a cleaner shrimp they would prevent ich in this case I think it caused it.
 
hot883

hot883

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Originally Posted by maxxy
I have an aquaclear 70. crushed coral and a power head. I looked again at the blenny and I'm sure he has either ich or marine velvet.now he is gasping. I had my water tested by the lfs and also I have 2 different test kits I get them same results with them both lfs also tested water as perfect. Any suggestions on how to treat ich with inverts in the tank? I should just go back to freshwater they are much easier. I thought if you had a cleaner shrimp they would prevent ich in this case I think it caused it.
You should always put new arrivals in a QT. You can place the fish in there and treat them and let the tank go fallow (no fish) for 4-6 weeks. It will kill the ICH if in there and you can nurse the fish back to health hopefully.
 
maxxy

maxxy

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Right after I lost the first 3 fish. I waited a week tested the levels and then added the new ones.
 
gordruls

gordruls

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I HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM .. I DID A 30% WATER CHANGE AND IT DID THE TRICK..I WILL NEVER SKIP A WATER CHANGE AGAIN!
 
mikeyjer

mikeyjer

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Another thing I should add is your salinity is a bit low for inverts, should try to bring it up to 1.025-1.027 That's not what killed your fish though. Should do like what the above post said, leave the tank fallow for 6 weeks. They'll run their cycle and die. :happyfish
 
maxxy

maxxy

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Thanks for the heads up about the salinity and inverts still new and could use all the advice I can get. Raised it today.
 
haze123

haze123

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yeah I agree with scubadoo. Do a water change and then wate about 2 months with no fish or longer that should kill any ich that is left in your system sence you have no host fish for it to grow on, also a good thing to add to your tank sence your having this problem is a UV Filter blub. They are nice for problems like this. They will kill any bacteria you dont want and bad alge as well I would strongly recomend one they do wonders on my tank. Another thing you should do is get one of those cheep 10 gallon eclipse tanks and set it up for a qt tank. Any new fish you get put in there before going into your tank and only add one fish at a time and I think you should be good to go. Other then your ick problem you sound like your doing well if your inverts are staying alive thats always a good step. I always had problems keeping inverts when I first started. Get a UV filter and youll be golden. Keep up the good work.
 
mikeyjer

mikeyjer

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Originally Posted by haze123
yeah I agree with scubadoo. Do a water change and then wate about 2 months with no fish or longer that should kill any ich that is left in your system sence you have no host fish for it to grow on, also a good thing to add to your tank sence your having this problem is a UV Filter blub. They are nice for problems like this. They will kill any bacteria you dont want and bad alge as well I would strongly recomend one they do wonders on my tank. Another thing you should do is get one of those cheep 10 gallon eclipse tanks and set it up for a qt tank. Any new fish you get put in there before going into your tank and only add one fish at a time and I think you should be good to go. Other then your ick problem you sound like your doing well if your inverts are staying alive thats always a good step. I always had problems keeping inverts when I first started. Get a UV filter and youll be golden. Keep up the good work.
You've forgot to mention that UV does kill the good stuffs too!!! I don't have one and my tank is doing quite well!!! :happyfish
 
scubadoo

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UV's or of little to no value in combatting/preventing marine ick. Exposure time required along with flow rates render most aquairum single system uv's ineffective against marine ich.
There is no need for a UV on a well maintained closed marine system.
 
mikeyjer

mikeyjer

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
UV's or of little to no value in combatting/preventing marine ick. Exposure time required along with flow rates render most aquairum single system uv's ineffective against marine ich.
There is no need for a UV on a well maintained closed marine system.
 
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