Originally Posted by
spanko
http:///forum/post/2743622
Hey B-Clark, sounds like you are getting the bloom itself under control with the Chemi Clean.
This will be my last stab at tying to explain myself and I think what FatTony might be getting at and then I'll leave it alone.
Your assessment of what the chemical is doing in regards to removing - dissolving- or otherwise getting rid of the nutrients causing the bloom we will say is correct from your standpoint and the manufacturers advertisement.
What I think Tony and I are saying is while it is working to get rid of the problem, the real problem is how did the nutrient collect there in the first place? This is what we believe has to be addressed to permanently correct the situation. Whether it be flow related - like this is what we'll term a dead spot or a spot where the flow slows enough to allow suspended material to deposit - or maybe a place where a creature originally died - or whatever it is in your interest and in the interest of future potential blooms to really take a look at that spot and make sure it does not continue to happen. If it does you will undoubtedly have the need to continue to use the product.
You may have already done this but I post it for you if you have not and for others that may be having the same problem.
Great discussion to have bud because you and I are not the only ones reading here, but there are many others looking for long term solutions to their problems. Thanx for staying on track with me through it.
No worries dude! If I were just having a bloom in one spot, I would definitely say it was water movement, but I have loads of water movement and this stuff was everywhere, even in the direct path of one of my Koralia, so I have narrowed the problem down to overfeeding my coral, or at least over supplementing. I was dosing calcium, strontium, iodine, Marine snow & Fuel. Of course not at the same times, but was dosing it waaaaaay to often, and that's why I have a massive amount of nutrients in my tank. I did it the old fashion way, with water changes every week (which is what I had been doing for years, but this time on a much larger scale to rid my tank of those excess nutrients) cleaning & siphoning the cyano out etc. It just didn't do the trick, so I resulted to this, and had I not addressed the original problem of excess nutrients I would have totally agreed with you guys that the bloom would come back, but I just can't. I have my "problem" under control and I would be really surprised if it returns, but I knew it was going to return the last time I cleaned & siphoned for HOURS! LOL I just had that feeling and low & behold, 3 days later, BAM, it was back, not as
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initially, but after 3 more days it was covered again! I totally understand where you guys are coming from, I just want you guys to see where I am coming from. I have been in the saltwater hobby since 1999-2000 and I have read a lot about cyano and wanted to get everybody's take on it, which is what I did and I appreciated that, I never wanted to sound ungrateful because that's not the case at all, but if something is said that I don't agree with, we talk about it & try to sort it out! The saltwater hobby has changed drastically in the recent years as far as filtration, lighting even stock and the old school way isn't always the only way to achieve your goal, just like this instance. Who knows, you guys may be right, it may return, I think it won't since I addressed the original problem which was excess nutrients and all I am saying is that as long as you have addressed your nutrient problem and have it under control, Chemi clean is the BEST way to go when it comes to getting this cyano out of your tank. If you want to spend hours blowing this stuff off of rocks, sandbed etc. and siphoning, by all means go right ahead, but even then, if you haven't addressed your problem then it's likely to return whether you used chemi clean or the old fashioned way. In one of my first posts I explained that my problem was dosing my coral waaaaay to much and that's the root of the problem, Boyd's Chemi clean is what helped me rid my tank of the outbreak so that I could "start fresh" by killing all of the bacteria, because that's what cyano is, instead of blowing & siphoning it literally ate it away and the amount of cleaning & siphoning I had to do after chemi clean paled in comparison when it comes to how much cleaning & siphoning I had to do before chemi clean, not to mention it returned, and I had addressed the problem of dosing to much of my supplements etc. I am more than grateful to all of you who have posted on here with your suggestions, comments etc. This is how things get solved! A zillion heads are waaaaaaaay better than one! LOL