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bigarn

bigarn

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A little ... no, a lot of over kill there I'd say.
As far as the russian logo on our flag ... I won't even go there.
 
jp30338

jp30338

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This economic mess began BEFORE Obama...Just an FYI
How can he fix the economy in the 60 days he has been in office,which took 8yrs. for the republican president to destroy?
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by jp30338
http:///forum/post/2976370
This economic mess began BEFORE Obama...Just an FYI
How can he fix the economy in the 60 days he has been in office,which took 8yrs. for the republican president to destroy?
You better look at Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Franklin Raines too. Despite Bush and McCain both raising flags about Fannie Mae, they fiddled while Rome burned and Raines walked away with 90 million dollars in his pocket. The economic mess has been happening as we have been shifting to the left, both parties.
Barbara Lee told us how well things were going just a few years ago. She also noted the excellent job Franklin Raines was doing. Why not blame her?
I am wondering how many more tax dodgers Obama will nominate. How many more lies will he tell us. He promised "no lobbyists" yet his administration is full of lobbyists and tax cheats. I can only imagine the uproar in the "free press" if Bush nominated a tax cheat to run the Treasury and IRS.
Everything Obama reads from his teleprompter causes the Dow to drop 200 points. Even the Wall St Journal has indicated this is the Obama recession.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2976349
I'm not sure what this means - the market collapse depicts the events that occurred during the previous administration, so why shouldn't a different approach be tried?
Drastic decline in the stock market plus Obamas new 3 Trillion dollar budget dosent take Rocket Science to figure out.
 
jp30338

jp30338

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Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2976437
You better look at Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Franklin Raines too. Despite Bush and McCain both raising flags about Fannie Mae, they fiddled while Rome burned and Raines walked away with 90 million dollars in his pocket. The economic mess has been happening as we have been shifting to the left, both parties.
Barbara Lee told us how well things were going just a few years ago. She also noted the excellent job Franklin Raines was doing. Why not blame her?
I am wondering how many more tax dodgers Obama will nominate. How many more lies will he tell us. He promised "no lobbyists" yet his administration is full of lobbyists and tax cheats. I can only imagine the uproar in the "free press" if Bush nominated a tax cheat to run the Treasury and IRS.
Everything Obama reads from his teleprompter causes the Dow to drop 200 points. Even the Wall St Journal has indicated this is the Obama recession.
Yes it is, because all those who have defrauded the U.S. citizens for their own personal gain are about to get what they deserve.
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by jp30338
http:///forum/post/2976453
Yes it is, because all those who have defrauded the U.S. citizens for their own personal gain are about to get what they deserve.

Really, are we recalling Frank, Pelosi, Boxer, Lee?
Are we getting the money back from Raines?
Is the press going to come out and say we were wrong to mislead the people about this issue, both sides were wrong and the tax payers are paying the price?
Are they going to say Bush/McCain were right to question Rains about Fannie and Freddie. The Democrats should have doen more to prevent this disaster.
I don't think so , Tim.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2976349
I'm not sure what this means - the market collapse depicts the events that occurred during the previous administration, so why shouldn't a different approach be tried?
True but you don't stop a fire by throwing more fuel in it's path.
What Obama is doing is making a bad situation way worse. It is a given that within the next couple years everyone who isn't already on some kind of government welfare of some sort is going to get hit with big tax increases. Anyone who says the increases will only be on the 250K a year and up "Rich" are either liars or idiots. The numbers don't come close to adding up. Each new stimulus item just adds more to the upcoming bill we have to pay and businesses know it. That is the reason for all the lay offs recently announced. If they though Obama's new direction was the answer they would be positioning themselves for the good times to come, not cutting back so they can survive.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by jp30338
http:///forum/post/2976450
The decline began way before he was in office.
Its irrelevant"when"its the course we are on now.Tax And spend ...New,New,New Deal only more massive,surely with the same results.
This attempt at repeating history will turn out the same way it always does.Bad for everyone except those in charge.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by jp30338
http:///forum/post/2976287
It is about time we progressed, instead of clinging to the tired same old you know what.
I hope your thoughts on our way of life dont even remotely echo the rest of our children in this country.
 
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